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RSPCA calls for ban on sow stalls

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My apologies rojo, I was assuming you were referring to the Code of Practice.

Feral pigs are at the other extreme. Poor nutrition mostly that makes them susceptable to disease and no control at all over grazing, health status, matings etc etc

Under the conditions that we raise pigs, there would be no problem at all containing an outbreak of foot and mouth, should it happen. Free range doesnt have to mean that pigs are just running loose all over the property with no management system in place. A very remote threat of foot and mouth in certainly no justification for sow stalls.

Health problems on a properly managed free range farm are minimal. On large intensive places the first job of the morning is to drag out the dead.
Posted by PF, Friday, 4 May 2007 11:02:32 AM
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PF, no apology necessary, I should have been more clear.

"A very remote threat of foot and mouth in certainly no justification for sow stalls."

I totally agree, it's the counter argument(not by you) saying intensive farming causes foot and mouth or disease that I disagree with.
In everything I've read it's that good animal husbandry, in whatever system of production, has the largest bearing on animal welfare.

Even during drought the feral pigs are doing pretty well up here. It's been hard to keep them out of the sorghum. At least the pig chasers are getting a few dollars out of them.

Do you have a branded product that I can look out for? Purely for eating purposes, I assure you.
Posted by rojo, Friday, 4 May 2007 8:25:14 PM
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Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Friday, 4 May 2007 10:04:15 PM
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I get very annoyed with the arguments put up by APL in support of intensive farming at the expense of free rangers. We are levy paying members too (no choice in the matter) yet they make statements like ‘all pork producers believe that sow stalls do not compromise pig welfare’ Admittedly they do it via an anonymous website or a PR firm.

You are right about animal husbandry and unfortunately some of it in the intensive industry is appalling. At the same time it does concern me that as interest grows in free range pigs that the unscrupulous will move in there too if they see a buck to be made. I have this horrible vision of sow stalls stuck out in paddocks or something. There needs to be some standard in place to control that.

The fact that feral pigs do so well could only be seen as an argument for how pigs are meant to live outdoors wouldnt it?

I do have a branded product but experience has taught me not to divulge information like that on OLO. I would suggest you take a look at this website though http://www.freerangepork.com.au
Posted by PF, Saturday, 5 May 2007 8:42:47 AM
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PF Said.
At the same time it does concern me that as interest grows in free range pigs that the unscrupulous will move in there too if they see a buck to be made. I have this horrible vision of sow stalls stuck out in paddocks or something. There needs to be some standard in place to control that.

Goodmorning PF
Thanks for the name of the book.

Regarding your comment above I Agree totally!
Isnt there some way you could start the First Free Range Accreditation through RSPCA for example.
Your right its vital that the right people are in charge of vetting Free Range Farmers.

Why not work also with HS in NSW.

Could you see yourself running a ag school for eg.
Just wondering PF. I mean if you were paid and somebody put up the funds.
I must say I read your comments about not publishing your name.
All I know is my mother breeds cats and my father dogs- beleive it or not.
They are both proud as punch and I dont see why people can not say that.

Call me naive but could you explain why you wouldnt want people to know where they can learn about free Range Pig Farming.

If it were me I would be telling everybody if it was my Mum or Dad because its something you should be really really proud of.

I am proud of you and I dont even know you.
Without people like you who know what they are talking about how are we ever going to inform the public.

Now please dont bite my head off I am just wondering.
I addmitt I am only young with a lot to learn but I am determined to learn properly.

Then I can teach my children the right way because one day I would like to be on a farm with them. When I have gone they can take over the farm.

Thanks again and I have already ordered the book
Taryn Winter
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Saturday, 5 May 2007 12:00:21 PM
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PF, understand your reservations, I'll have a better look at the website.

"The fact that feral pigs do so well could only be seen as an argument for how pigs are meant to live outdoors wouldnt it?"

Well since all animal ancestry evolved outdoors, I'd say that was a fair assumption. Whether they are as productive is the question, I don't see anyone capturing them for breeding purposes.
I guess they are black for a reason. Sunburn is a real issue.
Posted by rojo, Saturday, 5 May 2007 12:16:54 PM
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