Like Vietnam, Afghanistan is another US war of lies (aren't they all). The tied old line from the war mongers in Washington "freedom and democracy" is just a lie. All this to disguise their true motives of world economic domination. When the US refer to defending their strategic and economic interests, don't be fooled it is nothing more than a euphemism for world power and world domination.
Growing up during the cold war I always favored Australia to be seen as a non aligned nation rather than a servile lackey to US imperialism. For a brief period during the Whitlam years I though this would come to fruition, but unfortunately the demise of Gough seen Australia sink back into its subservient roll as a puppet of the US and a blind follower of that countries aggressive agenda. In the tradition of a Menzies or a Holt, Gillard like Rudd, Howard and those that come before continues the sycophantic folly of "All the way with Uncle Sam." unfortunately to Australia's detriment.

"All the way with Uncle Sam." unfortunately to Australia's detriment.
Paul1405 et al,
I shudder to think of eventually proving you wrong, I just hope it doesn't get to that.
What do you think would have happened to the planet by now if the US hadn't played Policeman to the world ?
What other Nations do you think would have the will & resources to keep the mindless under control ?
Give us a bit of a list please. Your remark is like my boss's who said we need more boat people because he wants to maintain his $65 grand pension when he retires. Somehow I can't envisage religious fanatics who despise us worrying about our pensions.

o sung wu.see http://www.globalresearch.ca/ The Gulf of Tonkin incident which the USA used as an excuse to escallate the Vietnam war did not happen.Records released in the late 1990's show that North Vietnam did not attack any US Ship.The USA arms manufacturers and chemical companies made a fortune destroying Vietnam.People today still suffer from the effects of Agent Orange.55,000 US soldiers died there for profit.We pay the taxes for the loans and pay for the wars.

We warned the USA of the impending attack on Pearl Harbour.They let it happen because the US people wanted no part of war.The USA was restricting Japanese trade and cutting off their access to oil.Japan had little choice but war.It was an indpendant country and a manufacturing giant.It was a threat to Western power.

Right now the West is trying to go to war with China/Russia since the West has lost the financial wars and only have weapons left.It is the Banking Military Industrial Complex that initiates wars for profit and stealing energy and resources.China does not want war since right now it is winning the peace through production and improving the economies of those with whom it deals with.

Gaddafi of Lybia had oil which the Chinese were developing and gold.He was going to bring in a new African currency backe by gold that would rival the $ US.That's why they had to invade Libya and murder him.

http://www.ae911truth.org/ Here you will see 1700 Architects + Engineers proving that the Towers of the World Trade Centre were a controlled demolition.If you control the media then lies become the truth.

exhibited all of the characteristics of destruction by explosives: quote from the photo in the link.
Arjay,
The debris blowing up & out looks very much like the result of the pressure wave from the internal compression of the collapse. We did see the airplanes go in didn't we ? Or was that a well orchestrated illusion ?
Yes weaponry companies make a lot of money from wars but so do many from the stupidity of the average voting citizen. Of course conspiracies abound & the WTC was an Arab religious fanatic conspiracy. The sad thing is that those targeted haven't got the gist of the attack & haven't stopped going about their idiotic ways. I suppose greed & the prospect of money will always be the greater force in shaping peoples' mentality.

I there - DEN71, PAUL1405 & ARJAY...

Thank you all for providing me with further enlightening material, with respect to the alleged contrived evil that the USA supports and represents ?

Both your enmity and denunciation of that country is almost palable. Yet we, as a relatively small nation owe them so much. Of course, I can't in anyway agree with you, with any of your sentiments or unfounded allegations stated hitherto. Nor can I countenance any of the mockery or derision you all seek to engineer, in your attempts to provoke large scale disparagement of this large proud Nation !

Concerning the events of 9 September, your allegations of a supposed, purposeful and deliberate destruction of the Twin Towers, occasioning the deaths of over three thousand people.

As ever the pragmatist, I look to the evidence. And the evidence I do have, is no more nor less than any other member of the public. But I do reckon the evidence is quite clear. On that date, a terrorist organisation mounted a well planned strategic attack on the Twin Towers, in New York City. A systemic failure, by the intelligence units, of both the CIA and FBI, manifestly contributed to the overall success of that attack. A previously deficient area that has since been strengthed significantly, post September eleven.

Nor is there a scintilla of factual evidence suggesting otherwise, notwithstanding any number of conspiracy theories abounding.

I'm under no illusion whatsoever, that the US has it's fair share of foiables, and failings. Probably, as many as any other democratic Nation of similar size.

However it's my humble opinion those defects are far outweighed by the enormous amount of good, and goodwill they've achieved all around the world ! More good, than some of the minor errors in judgement they've made in relation to their earstwhile foreign policy.

In conclusion, by the existence of fact, I'll therefore continue to closely endorse and align my views and opinions with that espoused by both BELLY and INDIVIDUAL !

Nevertheless, many thanks for your contribution.

Good morning o sung wo
It is my fate to find trouble.
For myself, by saying it just as I think.
A lifetime habit, that has rewarded rather than hurt for the most part.
Be content, a truth that will always be unshakable is that most Australians, Liberal Labor National,think alike.
Your named trio are not bad folk, not one of them.
But as you say,the anti USA along with deep bedded failure to understand all sides of this issue are the usual.
This thread had two heads.
Two directions.
The attempt to link our bush fire crisis was never going to work.
Out there some place today, are sick folk who lite some of those fires.
Bet they had no idea their actions made them terrorist fighters, maybe they did.
We can only hope,in the case of firebugs they too do not under stand.