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Rethinking Socialism

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Hasbeen you know I try.
But your insulting description of any thing involving the ALP and its followers.
Brands you, not me or them.
Abbott,s proposed pregnancy leave is a start.
You are over confidant in your ability to know.
Leave you to arm wrestle with Paul.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 17 January 2013 10:12:30 AM
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Paul,

"SM, are you saying families with a combined income over $150K p/a can not get family benefits."

No I didn't, and you know it, or you wouldn't have asked.

Similarily trying to fabricate an imaginary family with dual incomes with 5 kids under 10. Really! Stop making straw men.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 17 January 2013 10:26:56 AM
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"There is a low fee independent school in the Southerland Shire, where for fees of about $8000 p.a."
SM I take it your from your posts you're from "THE SHIRE". I can just see a battler on $40,000 with 3 kids at school and a partner working part time living in Sutherland Sydney sending their kids to your low fee independent school, how many low income families have kids at this school and I don't mean the token 1 or 2 they all like to have on the books. If people are willing to shell out $8,000 a child then they should be able to pay $16,000 if they want their kid(s) educated by these "independent" people. Support Public Education
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 17 January 2013 10:50:11 AM
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SM. My partners oldest son has five children 1,4,6,7 and 10. Don't you think we have large families in Oz.
You said "Family benefits have never been paid to those earning over $150 000." Son has his own business with a high income they get family benefit part A.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 17 January 2013 11:24:57 AM
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Paul,

Seeing your arguments, I can see why the greens are in trouble.

No your straw man Battler probably would not send his 3 kids here,

Secondly your statement "If people are willing to shell out $8,000 a child then they should be able to pay $16,000" is devoid of logic. The answer is that some can, but most can't.

Removing the subsidy would close the school, and put an additional 500 pupils onto the state public system, at a cost of about $7m p.a. that comes out of the state public school system. Which public schools would you have this amount removed from?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 17 January 2013 11:28:36 AM
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PS.

Are the family benefits paid to your partner's son or to his wife who is not earning $150k?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 18 January 2013 5:22:15 AM
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