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Has the RSPCA been highjaqcked?

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o sung wo, Gday mate, in lifetimes as long as yours and mine things change.
First I made a mess in shooting a dog, 45 years ago, never again, had to do it did it right.
RSPCA is not the one of our birth.
I did you know, spend about $12 every week to put in their food bin.
Never again.
We all, should be on guard for minority infiltrating mainstream groups.
Sly and sneaky they harm the victim, RSPCA has let its self be hurt, badly.
comments by Philip S are in my view nothing to do with the problem.
Here is my honestly held view, ABC radio or TV airs any thing.
It aired this beat up, RSPCA CONSPIRED to get the air time.
Notice we are not hearing much about this? even days after it took place.
Know why? the film was taken months before the new rules came in to force, .
No evidence those cattle are ours exists.
Jewish folk like Muslims have strict religions laws.
About how a beast is killed, strict and policed.
WHY then did these folk act so badly? why in a workplace did they let it be filmed.
Did some one pay to see such awful acts? as was the case in Indonesia?
I have had many jobs in the first half of my life, including the killing yard servicing a small town,400 people.
And the Sydney one serving the world , near 50 years ago.
I would have been flogged for doing this to those cattle.
WHY was it done.
Please I want Aussie jobs but hear me, meat exports to this part of the world will not work.
Small groups bent on out comes have often manufactured such story's, RSPCA has been infiltrated.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 13 December 2012 5:57:19 PM
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Hi there BELLY old friend...

Seems like you and me are birds of similar plumage, except you've had the benefit of working for many different groups, with different bosses, and under varying conditions and requirements.

Consequently, you've had much more exposure and experience to many more challengers than I've had. Working for government gives you a very contrived view of many things, that only occur within the private sector.

Whereas, in the coppers everything is unequivocally spelt out for it's members, and is generally not negotiable. On most occasions certain decisions are made by those far above us, who reside in some air-conditioned office tower in the City. And we at the workface, simply and unquestionably, carry out those decisions/orders, whether we agree or disagree with them.

In the private sector, you've always got to consider job security, and not to upset the bosses. With us, sure we can certainly get dismissed, but it's a long convoluted process. And generally job security is always a given and accepted as such.

That's why many of the statements, observations, opinions, and views that you choose to share with us all, bears much merit and even eminence. Purely because of your wide vocational experience, you've enjoyed in the workforce.

Where I, have in essence, never done a days (real) toil in my entire working life ! Just the Military and the Coppers ? And in the main, mostly reactive, rather than proactive.

So there you have it ol' son, I'll always defer to your much broader level of vocational and industrial knowledge and judgement. In such complex matters of employment directives. Together with your thorough comprehension of the internal peculiarities, that impede your progress, as you're trying to navigate through the vagaries of the corporate world.

Cheers...Sung Wu.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 13 December 2012 8:27:22 PM
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Many Australians especially migrants would feel uncomfortable with private law enforcement groups that do not have the training nor controls of the police, but have police-like powers and can conduct surveillance on citizens and interrogate them, and enter private property without consent, taking evidence and confiscating private property. As I understand it, the RSPCA can also initiate and pursue action against citizens in court.

Over recent years we became concerned about what we saw as a more radical or activist direction in RSPCA policy and some of its actions. We don't think those sit well with the powers given to the RSPCA. Accordingly we ceased our longstanding donations to it.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 13 December 2012 10:16:40 PM
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https://www.google.com.au/search?q=RSPCA%20radical%3F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&source=hp&channel=np
This link is a start and worth while.
After that? well if you have time find the facts about just this single horrible case.
I do not think I am a radical.
I may be wrong.
But in my mind this incident was constructed, yes ever the cruelty to animals.
To fire yet another shot at live exports.
As a centrist within the ALP some will find my words strange, even untrue.
But if we observe the mess, this hung parliament is, we can see the radical nature of the greens.
If our eyes are wide open, and our minds free of personal bigotry,we can see minority's can ,and do, act against majority.
SOME, Animal welfare groups, train in tactics that include break and enter and evidence planting.
O SUNG WO ,BLOKE 22 years in DMR/RTA three name changes for them in recent history.
You learn fast *Nothing really matters any more*
Is a defense against management that leads in circles and gets nothing done.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 14 December 2012 6:00:48 AM
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Hi there ONTHEBEACH...

Actually, in NSW most RSPCA Inspectors are appointed as 'Specials', and as such, enjoy the same powers and responsibilities that are conferred and imposed upon regular police.

The appointment of Special Constables applies right across the board, with many different groups being sworn in, and to cite just a few...

Police from NSW who need to conduct protracted investigations in say, Victoria, are often sworn in as 'Specials' in the Victoria Police Force. This allows them to exercise 'police powers' as well as closely regulating their activities whilst working in VIC.

Other groups include - Rangers, State Security Officers, (not private Security) other Govt. Officers who need to possess police powers in order to do their respective jobs.

Your question as to what training, do these people receive ? Apart from police, which is obvious. I'd imagine they'd receive 'some' training, but from who, I don't really know ? I received several appointments (from different States) and all we're ever given, was a printed set of guidelines for 'Specials', and that's it. True, we were 'working detectives' (out of State), so we'd hardly do something foolish, and make idiots of ourselves. We could do that just as easily back in our own State !

What I can assure you though, these people are carefully controlled when they're working.

And if, in the course of their work, it is necessary for them to draw upon their 'police powers';

(a) They do so - pursuant to the specific Act of Parliament, under which they're appointed and work;

and

(b) pursuant to the various police disciplinary regulations that apply, in whatever State they're working.

How many of these people do their work, and exercise these 'powers', is somewhat moot I suspect - though I guess we all have a job to do.

Sounds convoluted, but it does seem to work ?

I hope this is of some assistance to you ONTHEBEACH ?
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 14 December 2012 2:35:27 PM
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0 sung wo while I think putting the blame on the out door staff, including officers is a red herring.
I think my concerns come from seat sitters in the office.
I looked after National parks in my work area, spent much time sorting out the standard issues.
White shirted office occupiers act as barriers not helping get the job done.
To the extent one PUBL8IC AREA, a beach, is a gay beat, because management refuses to act on workers rangers and others complaints about open naked sex acts in front of or involving Children.
My thought is not that all RSPCA is radical, too many within its senior management are.
Infiltration is standard stuff after all.
I gave up supporting RSPCA because3 it is becoming a political machine not just animal welfare.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 14 December 2012 3:33:22 PM
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