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Climate Change Again But.

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Belly, What is often forgotten is Australia is the worlds number one big polluter per capita. Our emissions are about 4 times greater than China's. We cannot take the moral high ground on climate change.
Here's a couple of links for some light reading on the subject.

http://www.climatespectator.com.au/news/co2-emissions-3-2011-australia-worst-capita-basis

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/nation-in-top-three-for-carbon-emissions/story-e6frg6nf-1226528695247

As for SM, just got to get yourself a thick hide when you come onto a political forum like this. How would you have gone in the days of Jack Lang as a 'Shadow Minister' in the bear pit. The Big Fella would chew you up and spit you out.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 6:37:43 AM
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Paul,

This is the second time that you posted rubbish and bluster and I have called you out on it. You then try and pretend that it was a joke. Really! This is a tactic that seldom survives junior school.

People that make up and post inflammatory rubbish and label people Nazis and imperialists with no justification are not called jokers, they are called trolls and liars.

If you are representative of the greens, then no wonder most people think the greens are a Joke.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 8:27:10 AM
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Paul may I?
You know I am never going to be a fan of SM.
But to some extent you bought that on your self, my humor is often biting,sometimes rude.
But no doubt it is humor exists.
Your more recent, and only that, efforts looked like you had lost the plot.
It never came to my thought you had been trying to be funny.
I am aware of what you say,BASED ON POPULATION.
You must however never discount the impacts on this issue if we cut and others grow out puts.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 12:20:45 PM
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Hi Belly,

Thanks for starting this thread.

The story so far:

* sea-levels around the world have risen by an avarage of two inches - from all manner of causes - in the last century.

* world temperatures have risen 0.8 degrees C - from all manner of causes - in the last century.

* average world temperature has not risen in the last fifteen years. Have I got that right ?

* CO2 emissions have been rising by 3 % p.a. since the early nineties, and well before.

Perhaps we are in the middle of a down-turn in some long-term cycle or other - that might explain that last point, the dis-connect between CO2 and temperature rise.

Was that it ? Is that all there is ?

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 4:25:41 PM
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"*average world temperature has not risen in the last fifteen years. Have I got that right?"

No.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/SkepticsvRealistsv3.gif

(A "real" skeptic does more than place his spiel on the turntable ad infinitem. You've been shown this graph before, you've had scientists on this forum take time to explain things to you....and yet, every time you pull out the same tired old spiel)
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 5:01:54 PM
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Yes, Poirot, world temperatures rose between 1973 and 1998 or so, but not much, or at all, since then. Even on your nifty little graph, the rate of change seems to be slowing up to the late nineties.

It would be nice to see a graph showing ever-rising levels of CO2 AND ever-rising temperatures. But nobody does :( The two don't seem to be going up together.

Damn.

:)
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 5:08:42 PM
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