Interesting history about ties, JHH, thanks.

TRTL,
yes I agree with you about the importance of building up resistance to germs.
However, because ties are germ traps they should not be worn by men working in the health and food sectors because hygiene is utterly important here. The other things I said about women not touching tie-wearing men with a ten foot pole etc, I was exaggerating a little for fun because I am taking this conversation lightly and semi-seriously :)

JR,
thanks for showing another reason why boys and men should stand up for themselves and demand that the tie should be optional instead of compulsory at their work or school.

It is crazy that men and boys are forced to wear ties in boiling hot summer weather just for wowser-ish reasons!

Ha yeah, perhaps natural selection will sort it all out if we are patient :)

Not only are ties a health hazard because they are germ traps and can cause eye problems, but in times that we need to conserve energy we need to think about the extra energy we are wasting in the hot summer months.
If male workers are required to wear jackets and ties, then thermostats of air conditioners are turned down, wasting more energy than necessary.

Australia is lagging behind because in several other countries including Japan, the Philippines and Chile, men are asked to leave their ties and jackets at home during summer months so energy can be saved.

Why has our environmental MP, Malcolm Turnbull, not made this suggestion?

http://www.careerjournal.com/myc/workabroad/20060612-morse.html
for an article titled: Japanese Men Dress Down To Cut Summer's Energy Costs.

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/070118/K011813AU.html
for an article titled: Chilean office workers told to shun neckties to ease air conditioning costs.

Celivia , I just had a thought ....

Do women wear stockings for the same dodgy reasons that men wear ties ??

Kartya Jim

Women wear panty-hose for the same reason men wear socks, moron.

Stockings (which have been obsolete since the 60's - see 'pantyhose' above) are worn for purposes of entertainment - Col Rouge would appreciate this, given his tastes.;-)

Celivia,

Excellent points about unnecessary air-conditioning being run for the conformists wearing suits and ties.

On the subject of conformity (glad I brought it up).........

Why are neckties so popular? To brown-nose the boss is why.

Personally, I blame company CEOs. They are the Kings and Emperors of our modern business world. An unfortunate condition indeed, given the fact that most CEOs are idiots.

So since the CEOs wear neckties, all the managers wear neckties. And since all the managers wear neckties, all the supervisors wear neckties. And of course, since all the supervisors wear neckties, all the underlings wear neckties.

So when that underling gets promoted to supervisor, then manager, then becomes the new company CEO, he’s still wearing the blasted thing. Why?

Just because that’s the way it has always been done, and typically by the time an employee makes it as high as CEO, any inkling of free thinking has long since been replaced with conformity.

And Since All The CEOs and Managers wear neck ties -"thats good for the farmers who grow the crops and empolyment".
Other wise we wont need any CEOs or Managers will we?

Since we wont need and CEOs or Managers then we wont need any staff under them will we?
Thats just great for economy.

Got any more bright ideas, Rudd Needs some policy`s.

It could be called the `No Neck Tie Policy`

Probably by judging from what I have seen on this thread with people going on about stuff all- He would win hands down. Or should I say by a neck!

God Help Australia because nobody else can.
Employment People.
"Think of jobs."

Never mind I am sure its all too hard.

Of course somebody might be bright enough to introduce the neck tie spray.
Yes more chemical - Thats the way to go.

I think I would rather build up my System with a few neck tie bugs so I dont full over as soon as a germ blows my way.

I also suspect that JHH has an outragous sense of humour which personally I love.
I think hes pulling you all by the leg- Umm sorry
- Your Neck ties and Panty Hose.
Very Funny JHH.

KJ
JR has a good point. Panty-hose has a function, neck ties are worn for dodgy reasons :+)
Perhaps they can still function as a soup bib, according to this article.
Ha, you’d better watch out people- you’ll never know when the anti-tie brigade is coming our way!
“Fighting over the ties that bind.”
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/fashion/article1473675.ece

“…Today in London, and tomorrow in New York, the Mandarin Collar Society is announcing its formation. Its aim is nothing less than the worldwide elimination of the necktie and its replacement with the open collar.
The society — whose signed-up members include Linford Christie and the chef Pierre Gagnaire — has even issued a manifesto, which makes for rousing reading. Neckties, it declares, are “historical relics”. Not only do they “impose conformity, invite enslavement, and remind the wearer that his superiors have him by the neck”; they are also a health risk — those who wear their ties too tight are apparently more likely to develop glaucoma. Worst of all, says the group, neckties are pointless, and serve “no obvious function other than as a soup bib”.

Seriously now, what I would like to see is for men to have the choice to wear a tie to work or not. (apart from the food and health sectors, where ties should be banned for hygiene reasons.)

Unless....can anyone think of a logical/legitimate reason why men should be FORCED to wear ties in Australian hot summers?

Here’s a hilarious quote from Linda Ellerbee:
“If men can run the world, why can't they stop wearing neckties? How intelligent is it to start the day by tying a little noose around your neck?” -Linda Ellerbee

I park m’ butt in m’ office every day in shorts and singlet. Then about midday I have a shower and change into m’ work clothes…most days. Sometimes I just stay in m’ casual gear all day.

I work for the Qld Government in an office building with six others, in a complex with about a hundred staff.

Now that’s the way it should be: dressed appropriately for the climate, but ready to don official attire if you have to ‘entertain’ clients or go off on official business!

Stuff neck ties! In fact, stuff collars…and long pants and sleeves and shoes!

OK, wear it if the climate is cold, or if you want to impress some twit who is easily impressed by dress standard or offended by ‘poor’ dress! But otherwise, wear a singlet and shorts…if you have to wear anything at all!