http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/asio-visa-bans-rejected-20121005-274ra.html
Who then is responsible for this country's security.
I truly want to know.
I wounder how we balance the fine line between law making and law enforcement.
It, in my opinion, would be far from rare for Australians to ask are the law enforcers judges and other representative of the feelings of the community?

I can see a benefit in having the right to review the law.
But it was the high court that stopped the Malaysian solution after refugee advocate lawyers won.
Who is served by ability to over ride the will of Parliament.
And who too by the chance to say our country,s first defense against terrorism can be over turned after doing its work.

We are signatories to so many international conventions etc that we have lost a lot of control on how we are governed or who is actually making the laws.

A lot of these conventions like the one on refugees were a necessary evil 50 to 60+ years ago when so many men died in the war that refugees were needed, trouble is it is now 67 years since then.

Even the UN has said a lot are just plain ECONOMIC refugees we need a Government strong enough to say times have changed these things need to go or be re-written.
The Government needs to re-write the laws so that we can be protected from undesirables that venture here.

One of the problems is lawyers originally were paid per word they wrote so they made it so long and complex they got paid a lot.

Re do the laws in plain English rather than gobbledygook.

OK yes Phillip S redraw the laws by all means.
I think we need to maybe do, not sure.
But I do fear the power of the few.
I think the high court judgment against the Malaysian solution went against the elected governments will.
And it happened to Howard too.
And,at first glance, even claims to set some who failed our entry test have to be set free, in our community?
I doubt the wisdom of that, and am concerned about who runs our country.

Belly that was a good decision by the hight court.It shows some independance.

Refugees are not a threat to our country.It is the international finance system and the military inductrial complex that has cuased these unlawful wars of imperialism which destrys nations and makes people look for a better life.

This system has totally corrupted our Govts and is taking away our rights under the lie of terrorism.

Belly,

You and I disagree about how effective the Malaysian solution would have been –but putting that aside for the moment.

The group who carried the latest challenge re the ASIO assessment is the same group who carried the challenge to the Malaysian solution.
And it needs noting --and, if it wasn’t so damaging it would be comic -- that group is to a large extent funded by state and federal govts.

Likewise many of the sites on the net that peddle mistruths about Australian immigration polices and practices e.g. conflating “hosting” with “resettling” in and endeavour to shame Australia into going soft on illegals (one of which was recently widely quoted by Alan Austin to support one of his misinformed beat-ups) are the recipients of govt funding.

And the other day, Sarah-Hansen Young was positively rubbing her hands in glee at the prospect that Indonesian “minors”-- aided and abetted no doubt by a posse of govt funded lawyers-- would be seeking to rip huge sums from the Australian tax payer in *compensation* for having been detained.

When you look at such examples, you begin to see that many of our wounds are self inflicted.