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High Court Over Rules ASIO/Government?

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It really is time that the public were given a method of both Veto on the appointment of judges, & a method of removing them when they turn out to be ratbags, or are too far from the desires of the majority in their interpretations.

It does seem that their appointment goes to the heads of far too many of these people appointed for life. At very least a maximum term of 4 years, with only one reappointment allowed should apply.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 7 October 2012 6:31:59 PM
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I like the idea hasbeen it should include lower and local courts to.
One of the times my job saw me give evidence for the police, a magistrate heard evidence that the offender was in Scotland!
On holidays in? the Magistrates home town.
7 police officers, 3 recovery crew and my team of road workers watched a very guilty person be acquitted.
Arjay, by now your thoughts are well known,even considered.
I can not talk for other but your views on America and the western world are not something I believe or can digest.
I proudly oppose your anti western stand always.
And ask this question of every one.
ASIO has it a roll in keeping SOME out of Australia.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 8 October 2012 4:30:37 AM
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<< China let the private banksters in for a while but still produce 80% of its new money debt free ie( or as a tax credit for it's people)China was expected to roll over in 2008 to the bankster criminals of Wall St but stood it's ground.This is why China is now been demonised by the Western Oligarchs.>>

I can’t testify as to the veracity of the above, but I can tell you how China solved its “asylum seeker” problem.

A number of decades back China started receiving ,by land and sea, a stream of “asylum seekers”.
Practically all of whom were ethnic Chinese claiming they had been badly treated in other parts of Asia.
(and being ethnic Chinese one would have thought not difficult to assimilate into Chinese society --unlike some from the Middle East)

China said “Ok we’ll give you asylum”
BUT, BUT, BUT
You won’t be going to the big lights of Guangzhou City we’ll be resettling you out in the boondocks

Strangely enough, soon after the stream of “asylum seeker” to China dried up –and most of those already in China sought resettlement to more gullible climes like OZ where, on arrival, they'd qualify for a ticket to the big lights, with all the trimmings.

Well worth remembering when the usually sources parrot the usual lines about:
<< Australia is part of the international community>> and “what will the neighbors think if we get tough on illegal immigrants ”
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 8 October 2012 7:32:44 AM
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Belly,
You and I agree that the illegals are shonks and they have to be stopped from coming here. I had doubts about the Malaysia scheme, but was willing to see it tried. However the courts settled that.

In this latest court decission, the government needs to move quickly to plug the hole that is exposed.

If the government is serious it should implement ALL the recomendations immediatly and then even tougher measures if necessary.

Because the illegals believe we are soft, it may take even tougher measures to stop them than before. But stop them we must.

I still think legal aid should be reserved for Aus citizens only.
Posted by Banjo, Monday, 8 October 2012 8:20:13 AM
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You still haven't a single clue about finance, do you Arjay.

>>China let the private banksters in for a while but still produce 80% of its new money debt free ie( or as a tax credit for it's people)<<

According to the most recent figures, China's Public Debt is 43% of GDP.

http://www.indexmundi.com/china/public_debt.html

This compares to Australia's Public Debt, which is 30% of GDP.

http://www.indexmundi.com/australia/public_debt.html

But still you tell us that...

>>We have a $ 1.2 trillion GDP economy. 6% of $1.2 trillion is $72 billion.We borrow most of this money from foreign private banks.ie they own our productivity and loan it back to us as debt.We are their debt bitches.<<

If that makes us "debt bitches", how would you describe China's position, relative to debt?

Face facts, Arjay. You haven't the faintest idea how economies work, how Banks work, or how government finances work. Yet you still churn out the same meaningless gibberish at every turn. What on earth motivates you to display your profound ignorance to us all, at every conceivable opportunity?

Your information sources are, I believe, seriously light on fact. Read more widely, and you will understand more. Here are a couple of articles about China's economy that you may have missed.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/08/03/china_s_debt_bomb

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2012/02/26/how-will-china-pay-off-its-debt/

You might notice the complete lack of phrases such as "private banks [who] own our productivity and loan it back to us as debt", and instead such gems as "The 16.3% calculation excludes Beijing’s 'hidden liabilities.' Once you add them in, China’s debt-to-GDP ratio increases to somewhere between 90% and 160%. And if you believe Beijing has been overstating its GDP recently—it has, at least starting from the last quarter of last year—China’s ratio approximates Greece’s 164%."

But I expect you will once again implement your fail-safe avoidance tactic, which protects you so efficiently from hearing reality.

Have a great day, with your head stuck firmly in the sand. Or maybe it's somewhere else, similarly dark and unpleasant?
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 8 October 2012 10:47:31 AM
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At least arjay now sees I am not biased against him.
Well Malaysia, the continuation of talks was part of the plan.
I TRULY thing it will work, if implemented as we heard it would, quick turn around arrival then depart.
Look, I do not mumble these words to offend, or to stab Abbott.
I HONESTLY, think the bloke is too negative, too politics driven, too personal achievement, the PMs job, driven.
He knows in my view Malaysia is the ONLY ANSWER IN SIGHT.
Further,in my honest opinion, he or his successor, will because of this, use it.
Turning the boats back would bring an international incident, they are not Indonesian.
Australia must not break the law of the sea, and we must not smack our neighbors in the face.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 8 October 2012 11:33:25 AM
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