sqe..esq/quote..""I had a bit more in mind than just exercise.""

i feel its important..to think..
not mindlessly repeat say a mantra..that dulls the mind distracts..from the obsessive thought..which by its nature is 'obsessing',..thus not listening..

so matra's work..but if its fruit is 'nuthingness'
thats just another drug..that DELAYS FACING THE CHANGE..has changed things..irreversably..you cant undo mind rape..thus must rationalise..know why..not chant the mind into nuthingness..

in the end we must face our fears
and face the biggest fear is we didnt do good enough
get over it...ONLY GOD IS PERFECT..and even jesus got many things wrong

like think what he could do on youtube
or on twitter..

instead govts possably got the poor begger locked up or drugged into zombiesm..like sharon..not the logest dead person kept aloive in a coma..but the one that will shortly have its biggest affect

but

say the details..you get locked up
till you pass for normal...

WHAT IS NORMAL..i NEVER hurt anyone
i wall away rather rthan fight..turned my che'ek..so many times im not sure where my nose is pointing me to this time..

yet nuthingness plus adverse reactions
just to avoid thinking..?

PLEASE*

do think again

""The point is we're sophisticated apes and our social/cultural burden takes us out of our bodily selves and into the chaotic, symbolic realm of competing sensibilities, anxieties and neuroses.""

yep
but also we KNOW..watching a muder movie..JUST before bad
MEANS..the mkind is in shock..as the dreams reveal..but some love that feeling

""Indeed to such a degree that we take it, idealism,as reality""

or silly standards like a hero/idol/guide/program paryy person
that in the end has feet of clay..just like us

we must be our own hero
our own cheer squad..THAT VOICE IS his*voice

""and forget how to be animals.""

REMEMBERING..we ARE our animal brothers keepers

""Quieting the mind and devoting time to the body""

the sum total of all life living its being..that in time..we all unite..atone via atonement...AT-ONE-meant

come together as one..not for us living
but him sustaining us all our living,,from within

natures natural nurture
sustaining life..via mather natures nurture
[not survival of fittest..more love that hate in naturs nurture

all life begat of the father
sustained by the father light..that living logicly chose love

""and its needs is what I mean.
Not in a self-conscious way.""

yes that..*we do*..for the least
we do to the most..

he that is least
is yet greater..than the baptiser..ye may enterain angels unaware

BUT NEVER TELL NO ONE!

Oh if only you knew Suze.

'Anyone who has only negative feelings about mental health issues has never had , or known anyone with, a serious mental health disorder.'

What a supremely arrogant generalization. Does seeing a handful of different mental health practitioners at various stages in one 's life, being medicated and even hospitalized at one stage, count in your books. You can f8ck right off.

'Men suffer these disorders just as much as women, so there is nothing to be gained by making it a gender issue.'

Way to miss the point completely. It's about the supposed treatment, not the incidence of mental health problems.

Most 'therapy' is based on talking and open emoting and this is harmonious with what we have come to learn to be the nature of the female response to stress and loss but runs counter to the masculine path.

I find it naive in the extreme for a nurse to think gender is irelevant in mental health.

http://thevarsity.ca/2012/06/07/on-gender-bias-in-our-approach-to-mental-illness/

http://www.genderbias.net/docs/resources/guideline/Gender%20differences%20in%20mental%20health.pdf

"Most therapy is based on talking and openly emoting..."

Actually that is interesting. A friends daughter had a bit of trouble in her pre-teen years due to a health condition and ended up at a facility to help her back on track. This child was encouraged to talk openly about her fears by the staff who were caring for her. Time dragged on and eager to get back home and to her normal life, she began to notice that every time she was openly emotive, she seemed to be punished in some way. Eventually, she worked out that she should clam up and not let her fears out.

They sent her home two weeks later

Let's face it, everyone who doesn't think and act like 'us' is borderline personality disordered… And for many of them that line is very, very wide.

What's more to the point is whether their coping strategy – whatever that is, from substances to religion – is a help or a hindrance to them and not harming other people.

If they have sufficient self-awareness to realise the distinctions and make adjustments in their own self interests… Good. If they lack the self-awareness, the ability, the resources, the family and friends to assist, then it's much more complicated and unlikely to be resolved.

However… Having witnessed a close relative's week-long paranoid delirium caused by infections and drug treatment related to Cholangiocarcinoma – sometimes there is no realistic self-awareness and professional and third-party intervention and treatment is the only solution.

My point I suppose is – whatever works.

It's just that we are not always effective at self-diagnosis and treatment.

(This probably includes those who join OLO only to try to make others as miserable as they are.)

Houlebecke, you aren't happy unless you can be nasty to someone are you, especially women
I won't be f8ing off anytime soon, sorry!

My own personal thoughts and experience are no more important than yours, of course.

I am only drawing on 30 years experience as a registered nurse, and my own personal experiences with mental health problems, but I am well aware I could be wrong.
Mental health is such a difficult area to work in, and is not my favorite , mainly because of the aggression.

Have a happy day now won't you?