yes
the perversion of parlement is extreem
where first readings were actually read..not just the title..
but the intended affect/reasoning..AND ACTUAL LEGISLATION>>..read out...LOUD..like in the days reading led to proclamation...but despite parlement being on radio...they dont mention the content.

the play the spin..or play other games
media is cursed..with opinion-nayters..and commentaters..but lacks real content...[ie whats really being voted on..not just what the whip tells you]..

anyhow apart from us trying to change things within
any party is a lost choice[unless they supply all the detail]
and thats a thing all parties hide..

juliar knew the ndis offer was bogus[playing the media..feigning returning to roots]..like swannie trying to link up with what it sees as labour values[but its the glossy/tossy version of lnp/alp lap that persists..

the middle class yuppies
and the... too big .,.to be ignored..just in case they ,may fail[the squeaky wheel that gets the grease..trying to bankrupt govt..and privatise the rest...

alp failed the test*
[libs too and green is the colour we go just before we spew...]

Banjo asked 2 August 2012 10:23:29 AM:

> ... can anybody explain in simple terms just what the NDIS entails?

Not me, but I put "NDIS" into Google and the first link was to the Federal Government's National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) website. That has a set of Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) about the scheme and some more detailed documents: http://www.ndis.gov.au/about-an-ndis/frequently-asked-questions/

OK, I have googled extensively and cannot find the governments policy on the NDIS. I found the NDIS policy on privacy and, as tom pointed out, there is a FAQ page, which is nothing more than spin, there is no hard facts.

From the report, we find there are 680,000 profoundly and severely disabled. Of these 310,000 need some daily assistance in core tasks.

Some time back i recall the PM saying there would be a NDIS, but it would be a couple of years away. Now suddenly it is brought to the fore, so I ask why and the only answer I can see is that the PM is trying to gain some political kudos.

If the PM is so concerned about those with disabilities where is the policy?

I have seen estimates of costs ranging from $6 billion per year to $16 billion per year. So Belly is right, no one knows. Obviously the government has no idea how to finance it, if they are asking the states to contribute more than they do now.

Why promise something that you cannot deliver or pay for. Like if I could afford a Rolls Royce and then afford to service it.

I have a terrible feeling that the disabled are going to be seriouly let down by all this. I can see their hopes come crashing down.

yes it was a new low for juliar
needing a hit...as the kiddie stuff isnt working
so some damaged aussie..no worries..talk it up..then blame the states..when they realise its really out to shaft the states..and boost the polls

great one lap

Banjo, Saturday, 11 August 2012 5:21:24 PM:

>... cannot find the governments policy on the NDIS ...

The government's plan seems to be limited to the $1 billion in the last budget for a first stage to help 20,000 people: http://www.ndis.gov.au/about-an-ndis/federal-budget-2012-13/

But this has to cover the cost of setting up the National Disability Transition Agency. So it is not clear how much money will be left to actually help people.

>Why promise something that you cannot deliver or pay for. ...

It seems reasonable to start on a small scale and avoid some of the large scale mistakes of the past.

As an example of what not to do, about $1B has been spent on a national e-health record system, with no usable system being produced so far and no prospect of one: http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1112/12rp03