SM,
I do not dispute that dissability support needs reworking.

I have emphathy for the disabled of all types and particularly for the parents/carers of a person dissabled since birth or early childhood and concerned about what happens after they eventually go.

I just would like more homework done before governments put forward proposals. I would not invest in a company just on a concept.

Belly,
Life has taugh tme to be sceptical. You often claim you are not religous, however you support AGW without solid evidence and now this NDIS, which seems little more than a concept. Apparently the government has little idea of what it will entail. You said yourself that no one knows, so how can you say you support this scheme and are proud of it. That is just faith like religion.

Given the track records of governments, especially this one, I remain sceptical about the outcome of this scheme.

From Lexi's link "Around 4.5 million Australians – or about one-fifth of the population – have a disability of some kind. Of these, 760,000 people under 65 years of age have a severe or profound disability, meaning they “always or sometimes need help with a core activity or task".

Who then has decided which 360,000 persons get more assistance and how did they come up with the figure of $8 billion a year?

Is it not how this present government got itself into striffe by not thinking through previous concepts like the home insulation, BER and others. The extreme cost over runs of the NBN is another example. Our mate Yabby calls them 'unintended consequences'. The illegal boat people is another example.

For the disabled, I hope it all works out, but I want more concrete foundations before I show support.

Dear Banjo,

I support the scheme with my whole being because I
could not even begin to imagine what obstacles the
disabled (and their families and - or carers) have to go
through. You ask some very valid qestions - and
hopefully they will get answered as things progress.
This is a good start (and about time) and I can't
imagine any decent politician not supporting a scheme
such as this. Better to make a start and iron out the
hiccups as you go along than do nothing at all.

I'm sure that Medicare wasn't perfect when it first
started - but where would we be without it today.

from banjo's quote...""ultimately service providers...LOL>>..will compete for the disability dollar, {/quote]""

yes folks its good old yanki medical service
where capitalists compete for the ream[oh plus the beurocracy

but lets read through the spin

""giving choice,""

[much like childcare?..that cost has doubled
EVERYTIME GOVT GIVES CASH..it goes to capitalist/beurocrats..NOT THE DISADVANTAGED*

"" improving outcomes and stimulating innovation""

dream on

i also seem to recall they can appoint a manager[agent]..to cream more off the top scam..[they just get bigger and bigger]..

currently states bear the full cost[billions]
govt comes in and offers a billion..but 650,000 is TO..start up beurocratic cash cow..[plus pensions and lunches/photops..mates rates..

a few good unionists in there a few capitalists..and next thing ya wifes a multimilionare[ala mrs rudd]..who cleaned up on howards ditching the COMMON WEALTH employment [ces]..service

[and now they get commision
FROM your wages..for 'finding your job']

just like the leeches are feeding off this new latest govt cash cow

OUG,
Please do not attribute those quotes to me, they came from an article written by one Anne Manne.

I am becoming increasingly wary of the accuracy of her figures and will try and check them out.

4.5 million disabled seems a lot, as does 760,000 'severely or profoundly disabled'.

She also says 360,000 will benefit from the NDIS, but what about the other 400,000 that miss out.

I cannot see how a government could introduce a scheme that only provides assistance for less than half of those in need.

i dont either
but thats what trials do[just like the 35 million trial in act [brobe].to alp pokies..in act]..thats a trial too..but some clubs are going to get millions.

everything is feather beding..like howards dental sceme for mates
like compulsory insurance cash cow to insurance[for COMPULSORY 3 rd party]..as if govt was formed to legislate commerce.

but we got that insurance conmpulsory[and yet others for bailing out super[compulsory of course..but with nice extra free govt cash[supposedly so the baby boomers dont bust the super system..

the lie that govt cant aford future pension..YET today..CAN PAY[both todays PLUS tomorrows SUPER*]so govt goes the growth stagedy..hoping to out ratio those recievingb our compulsorry super.

sorry bout saying you said it
but thanks for quoting it.

endless is the media destractions of swannie
while juliar is swanning arround in peace...red herings aplenty

whats the pm upto
how much gifting away today
[big noting herself on the big stage....with our COMPULSORY TAX* doll airs

OK, here is the report on which the government has based its policy. there should be plenty of accurate details about numbers and costs, etc it that.

http://www.pc.gov.au/projects/inquiry/disability-support/report

Next what is needed is the government policy, so we know exactly what is being proposed.