I suppose that I feel that a wrong was done by Kirner
all those years ago when the laws of that time
stated that it had to be 14 years of service to
get a parliamentary pension. Kirner was in for 12 years.
The only pension that she's receiving is the super that
she's paid in herself. I guess she hoped that they would
make exceptions in her case as Premier - and the laws
would be changed. They weren't.

Currently she's blin in her right eye and has severe
osteoporosis. Yet she's still contributing to the
Community as she's always done. She currently holds
the position of Victoria's Communities Ambassador -
showing disadvantaged people which buttons to push to
get things done.

Anyway, I am merely expressing my opinion in Kirner's case.
Especially after reading the article - "Howard tops ex-PMs
in perks." which makes me wonder why some get things -
others don't - and the list of benefits the ex-PMs get
is really quite amazing - all funded by the taxpayer.

cont'd ...

It seems to me that there's something dreadfully
wrong with a system that gives some politicians
very generous benefits (in addition to their
pensions) after much shorter times
of service - and yet others like Kirner - are denied
not only the benefits but a parliamentary pension
after 12 years. The laws surely must be
changed for the sake of equity.

*The laws surely must be
changed for the sake of equity*

Well yes. Politicians should have 9% of their salary paid into their
super fund, like other employees. All other perks should go, as with
other employees.

The equity that I'm talking about is the grace
period that was allowed all Liberal MPs regarding
their parliamentary pensions previously - until Jeff Kennett
refused to give it to Joan Kirner on her retirement.

He however retired on a full parliamentary pension as well
as earning money from other sources.

son of ghoul..[yes..kids..[and grandkids]
own home..full of stuff..the kids decided they wanted cash[so have mortgauged their inheritance..i paid off in full decades ago

but hey..they make their repayments
they..pay the rates[my power/bill..pre carbon-tax
is allways under 55
[but expect that to rise to 60..

for a c02/tax*..credit
some bludger,,likely got free credits for..[you know the ones 500 ALONE..lol..who will be paying it]

i live..off less than 800..a yeaR
stopped working[paying tax]..when compulsory/super was installed

[my super is in..investments..stamps/coins/gold etc..[over 3 million items]25,000 books..3000 lps/records/tapes reel to real..etc[thats my super]..a lot of things..i could sell for 50 cents each

and the kids..will sell
at a garage sale...for pennies on/the,,$

instead govt should be paying me..to protect it..till the day i die..and govt takes it back..[i spent..*what others spend on booze..but i now..got too much..]

but..a lot of it..was done by investing govt income
which soon..as i run out of..will need to begin selling.investments

im one of them hoarders
you know..we think its worth money
but others see its all rubbish..dont realise..some has value

govt proffesionals..could disperse it better
if govt was paying me..they could collect a share[10/20%]

kids get 80%[for nuthin]

think of private trusts
that never..make any proffit..whos benificiaries..live in grand homes/cars holiday etc..

paid for via..the loss making trust collusions
who never paid tax..centuray after centuray

lexie/quote..""He/retired
on/a..full parliamentary pension
as well..as earning money.from other sources.""

the idea of a govt/pension..was to cover transition..from politics
but now a days..it seems you can get payoff..*plus a board seat consultations..lobby work..kickbacks and real estate deals globally

i hear of all former pms..
[at one stage]..not one was living in oz

oh forgot we got a nice ambassidrial posting..[not to mention family trust arrangments]

if you got..a fat family trust
[and which poli or upper public servant/lawyer..docter accountant...poli dont]

you shouldnt double dip..if you take any pension
you shouldnt be doing any paid work.,.before repaying

its too easy..they sent me a letter
i didnt reply..and lost my pension..why shouldnt they?.

Thanks for that OUG, it answers my question. You did a big thing in getting the second mortgage and relying on circumstance being favorable for the kids. I could never put into jeopardy the piece of dirt that I call home for my kids, unless it was life or death. A selfless act, well done.