rehctub as I gaze around at my fellow plebs I take into account that 27% of them would keep Labor. It is a scary thought especially considering the basket case our domestic economy has become and the $880 BILLION debt the Labor party has accrued in 5 short years. There is no doubt in my mind that the Labor party exists because of the post 1970's influx of non European migrants.

In the same way that the Europeans from the post WWII influx steered towards the Libs because of the socialist threat to Europe from the Ruskies, the vast majority of immigrants from the Middle East vote Labor because of the conceived threat of lesser welfare benefits and a tightening of family reunion laws. Australians who by definition are from an Anglo Saxon background also have a sub culture of welfare recipients who vote Labor because they believe the Libs will cut their stipend.

the facts are very different.
Lexi,
I have no doubt it may be so on your planet but here on Earth in Australia facts are different.
In fact they're so different that you wouldn't recognise the Australia from 5 years ago if it fell on top of us. All this courtesy of ALP. Don't kidd yourself that the Coalition will do worse, that's impossible.

<< …I'd like you to tell me what Labor has done for us.. >>

Indi, they’ve done SFA!

Where do you get the idea that I’m a Labor supporter??

I’m a supporter of sustainability-oriented politics, and whichever party can do that would win my support.

Labor needs to COMPLETELY change its act in order to move away from seeing continuous growth as the answer to everything and embrace a paradigm where at least the demand for everything is not constantly increasing.

Labor looks as though they could do this more easily than the Libs, for three reasons;

they are just completely failing with their current approach and are in desperate need a fundamental rethink,

they’ve got two very good people who have been vocal for a long time about the absurdity of high immigration and continuous rapid expansionism and

they would be implementing policies that would be the right policies for our future wellbeing and would gel with a large portion of the populace once they are seen to be genuine and well-organised.

I absolutely don’t support the current Labor government or Coalition opposition. Wow, I thought I’d made that abundantly clear, over and over on OLO.

<< Luddy it seems you also share Belly's intelect. >>

SOGGY, that’d be ‘intellect’.

But then anyone with a modicum of intellect would have known that!

Now, would you do us the honour of proffering some sort of explanation for this ‘unfriendly’ little statement. Thankyou.

Luddy certainly not unfriendly, a direct observation.

You said you share Belly’s concern. Belly is not new to you; you have corresponded on here for years. Belly’s primary concern is to see the Labor party in power regardless of track record or failed outcomes. His secondary concern which complements the first is to see the Liberals in opposition into perpetuity regardless of their track record for sound management and firm social expenditure policies.

You said that you would vote informal given you don’t see the Libs as having any redeeming features, hence you share Belly’s intellect because you cannot define a clear difference in the historic fiscal track record of the two parties. Your intellect and reasoning powers are on par with Bellys.

No offense meant, just an observation, some people think better than others Luddy, that’s all.

Sonofglion, ok thanks.
Thanks for the rude and crude insult.
It frees me to answer you, hopefully in a much more positive way.
Intellect,understanding, are just two words I have never associated with you.
I am, and will remain an ALP voter.
WHY? just now and again I as myself that question.
Right here and now I answer it, those on the other side frighten me more.
Close run race, very close,but still!
Gillard her installation,her continued holding a position she should not have.
Thomson affair, death of the JOY Kevin 07 bought.
NSW Labor, SUSSEX STREET MAGGOTS, QLD,lost for maybe 15 years, tainted by our association with the greens, plenty to concern me.
Sonofglion? no mate,keep the dog on a chain, if it leaves home the average IQ will drop ten points.
If we look both sides are lead by second reserves for the B teams.
WHAT HAPPENED TO MEN LIKE curtin, Menzies, Hawk, Howard.
Why are we blind to Victorian Liberal scandals but still seeing lies about slipper.
Why is our great country so badly served by media? by reporting? by a Liberal front bench and Gillard? so bad we must ask are they kidding?