well its nice playing the man..lol
but thats the state of play...[as i write..radio national..is spruking some woman's warming spiel..

some interesting points being raised
like natzies first used science..to ban smoking
that its the natzie equivelent..that concieved the tax..on warming
but back then it was to tax ACID RAIN...next they wanted cfc's[cause they were warming..atmosphere

but special int5rests reign
big poluters refuse to pay..so sell a lie..yep ONLY 500 BIG POLUTERS WILL PAY[ie every custumer.is really opaying..but clever spin..its not you[you got a top up

other BIG POLUTERS..get frree carbon credits[likely deemed too big to fail[so give them shut up money

as shadow pointed out
there is the science
which IS SEPPERATE..from the cure
ok warming..but which 'gas' is the biggest cause[not c02]
but co2 we all can be said to produce...so we all get the tax..IF ITS C02..!

but cfc...mate..in ya hairspray/bo spray
but nitousoxide[40 times worse than c02]
is emmited from ya nitrogen[for ya pretty flowers]
80%..of all that nitrogen..turns into nitrous oxide[from farmers/home gardeners..bombs etc[tax them]

there are many contributing causes..far worse than c02
[but as the sheila said..moments ago..this is tied up to the smoking thing[same people fighting the same methodoogy[frighten/tax][power]

but wait..there is more
there is methane..from your home compisting
your farting..even from your bad breath[methane is 20 times worse than c02

but are we taxing backed beans
thing is your attacking the man
reacting out of fear..in lue of thinking seriously
or bothering to think

[yes i know belly your self taught..via the media spin

if you read it..it must be taken on trust
cause you got no idea of the other gasses..and other causes of cancer/warming..[cancer has 8 known causal mechanisms[for egsample]

and warming of the atmosphere[global warming gasses also number into the tens[but heck lets let farmers get free fuel solar cell subsidy wind generators frakkers frakking gas[also a greenhouse gas]..BUT ONLY TAX C02

its built on lie

its been spun..so we can tax one polutant
just like we taxed smokes..and not transfats.sugar's booze[picking the low hanging tax fruit]...via beatup and selecgtive blame

meanwhile the true poluters[the chemical industries/big petro/mining etc..get their polution for free..cause only c02 is doing it all...lol

its not
but what would you care

you got your bribe..i got yet another tax

rot in hell you liars
your cars..your solar cells..your windtowers
[your bying of heavilly transported..[non local food
its you lot that need the taxes..but you lot keep getting top up

lol

[meanwhile us no income self funded retirees..get the shaft..
insulted by retards that dont got a clue..as to science or true cause not just attributed..sold via lies

heck just the lies to sell the tax
but your so sold on its not you doing it..you chose to be blind

attack me
i bite back
in yoyur own words mr bell..explain how c02..warms the atmosphere[sitting there em,miting heat into frozen outerspace..[ie you been bush mr bell...how arm is that camp fire..putting its heat into the sky

not at all..unless your sitting near the fire
heat escapes into space..many things hold it back
but none can stop it..[our real worry is it goes all together
and that precious c02 gas..is lost..[then life dies],..

we then wil look like the moon or mars[ie be dead]

so your choice is warming/plus cooling
between..the mean

or frozen dead
cause too much escaped

Anthoinyve I at least have some good news for you.
If the next election takes place on time,about October next year.
And the current leaders still lead,we know Labor will be beaten.
BUT Abbott, or Turnbull, will not remove the carbon tax.
By then increasing evidence will see it stay.
And todays blindness, morning hasbeen /SM will be questioned by the public at large.

Ant,

While I believe in AGW, I don't believe that unilateral action will make any difference. Considering that the average price of carbon world wide is presently a few cents per ton, any unilateral price will have the effect of moving emissions heavy industries from high tax areas to low tax areas with zero net change.

Copenhagen spelt the end of my support on an Australian price on carbon, and that of most wise people too.

The evidence that global warming is real and is human induced just continues to pile up.
Antnyve,
Why keep shoving the obvious down our throats ? Even those branded denialist know that. The question that no-one asks is what can be done about because they know the answer but don't like it, nothing !
Those who believe some idiotic tax will help solve the new ice age in about 8000 years are even dumber that one could think possible.

@Steven,

There is a small problem with your little *all’s well that ends well* analysis.
And it’s that Michael Mann is now preaching that he did nuffin! wrong.
He was rather a victim and martyr of a dastardly devious conspiracy orchestrated by big oil, compliant politicians and the mercenary media—see below:

“I'D LIKE to say I was surprised when news broke a year ago that emails from the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, UK, had been hacked into and leaked, and that scientists' personal emails were being quoted out of context to disingenuously imply impropriety on their part. But I wasn't. Books such as Merchants of Doubt by science historians Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway have detailed how front groups for the fossil-fuel industry have been waging an orchestrated, well-funded campaign against climate science and climate scientists for more than two decades”
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20827840.100-professional-climate-change-deniers-crusade-continues.html

“FEW scientists have had as hard a time as Michael Mann …a target for those who do not believe in man-made climate change”
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21328542.700-the-man-behind-the-hockey-stick-graph.html

So with much less doubt than the margins allowed for in the IPCC reports with regard to AGW.
I predict that very soon (assuming they haven't already done so!) all over the world the AGW faithful will be pasting Michael Mann pictures on their bedroom walls, next to all their other anti-establishment heroes and martyrs:Che Guevara, Robert Mugabe, Paris Hilton...