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Dear runner,

Reason and logic do not always win. Superstition and ignorance have triumphed in the past and no doubt will at times triumph in the future. You call for my repentence. I don't regard using my reason as sinful. I don't even regard your devotion to ignorance as sinful. Although it is tragic to bury your reason you have a right to do so.

You have a right to maintain your superstitious mumbojumbo. I just don't want to be taxed to promote that nonsense in the schools or anywhere else.

May the light of reason shine on you. Good night.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 14 June 2012 10:54:24 PM
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Runner I am human, I get it wrong and often.
We you and I clash, I however am far from the only one to do so with you.
My days as a Christian came about because of love, for every one,well no, one creed repels me.
I do not see that love in you.
So we clash.
Yet I understand, I do not regret my days as a believer, every human should travel many paths learn as much as they can.
It helps the me I now am to understand the you I see.
I understand your blindness to other belief is in my view this,if you look at them, you may see a resemblance to your belief.
Unquestioned belief is mandatory for believers, leading to un questioned they are wrong, maybe evil,views of all others.
Religion must have unquestioned belief.
Yet I too understand the part played by it, modern civilization was in part, made possible by belief, by a common set of rules to live by.
For that reason, I support the INVENTION of a new one world religion.
Helped by censorship, we do that now, parts of your Bible never got to be printed,
One set of rules for every one, room exists for such as me to continue to evolve and those who need the straw to cling, at least to one that unites not divides.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 15 June 2012 5:33:35 AM
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davidf

'Reason and logic do not always win.' You are right

yes keep Creationist out of schools because they expose how religous and idiotic evolution is.
Posted by runner, Friday, 15 June 2012 3:51:09 PM
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im noting bellies call for a 'new' religion
mormans come to mind..or maybe tom cruise

i would prefer them to get it together
bring alive what the prophets said[AT THE PLACE they said 'it'
rebuild the best local story..form a holygrail trail..[where you adopt the local dress/custom...which if violated..at worst earns getting outcast

look at how pilgrimages..in uk...made good living
religious tourism[expiencing as the prphets expiernce
could be huge

come to the place the donkey spake
where the donkey..earned the cross on its back
cross where mosus crossed..

walk arround the wall..till the walls fall down
[work on the great wall of china..help rebuild a pyramid
[it could be huge..revealing and honouring..tourists not terroists

the prophets and their message
[as much as giving back our amasing huh?man story..back to god]
Posted by one under god, Friday, 15 June 2012 4:16:28 PM
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I am not sure we made much progress.
I learned from runners posts, to think differently about them.
I have, for a very long time, thought of them as bigoted.
Yet untruth no, not near close, in fact they are Representative.
They mirror post middle ages Christian thought.
Sex was evil, God all powerful and those who held his power? never to be questioned.
I again am reminded just how humanity can ignore, well give no value to,every other God, even if theirs is vastly out numbered by that Gods followers.
Even the separation, of males and females, for religion not other, is remarkable.
And what other living thing on this earth is constrained in sex other than as a method of not in breeding?
OUG I think not of a true God, but the invention , for those who wish/need it can bring a better world.
No expert,it may be dangerous but a church is teaching all faiths and may be that future one.
We should not forget, every day we are presented with news and views statements, that are untrue, as increasingly our world is challenged by rich and powerful.
So it may be them, or true humanists who launch the invented God.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 16 June 2012 5:07:47 AM
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belly[all the athiest 'facts'..i have heard
attack the religions..formed arround 'a' message
nuthing they present refutes or concerns the reality..of god..[its all about religion..getting a free lunch..].,.or piests doing ungodly things

or about how if you believe ...in THE THEOry..of evolution
your basing it on science..even if you got no idea of how 'science'..or 'evolution'..dun it..

i extensivly studied science..by the book
searched out the text it was bassed on..[from the actual science text punlications...read darwins revealations extensivly[asdore his science mind]..but watch as fools..never read any text..say god didnt do it[evolution did]

if you recall the feeling[when others grab the credit]
how that feels..knowing the actual person what CLAIMS they KNOW how it was dun BUT CANT REPEAT IT..they got a theory[a faith/hope fear]..but not a proof

if you cant do it
dont claim others did it
unless you can prove EGSACTLY HOW THEY DID IT[ie if you can sing sing]
if you think \singing did it..sing and make it happen

or like that king that orded the tide to stop
yua [they got a faith belief or fear
but no god replacement

till a man does what he says is how it really happend
his proof of how its done..is not proof..thus its theorry[wind]

david realises ..science cant prove evolution[out of genus]
as do the other prophets of evolution..spies level evolution cannot leave its genus[and if you dont grasp that statement..PRESENT PROOF ITS FAULSE

its not
science proves genus cant be evolved out of
proves living genus bbreds other living genus
of the same genus as its parents..

there is NOT ONE PROOF
OF A NEW GENUS..[lol..evolving..
exta;..out of..an old genus]...*ever*

life from same life
this is what science CAN prove
the rest is theory[unable to be proven]..thus taken on hope fear or faith..by thgose who dont dare learn limits of science facts..

science[evolution etc]isnt that scientific
it has the same high priest authority
just like the high priests of athiestic sic belief..
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 16 June 2012 9:41:34 AM
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