'Religion is the opiate of the masses' Religion is made by man. The question really is why a supposedly thinking being lets a man made contruct dictate how to live is astonishing. Especially considering how frequently the movers and shakers in each religion shows themselves to be the biggest hypocrites regarding their own rules.

It only works because so many have been brain washed from an early age. I actually don't think parents have the right at all to send their children to religious based schools. It is abuse of power.

Schools are there so little people become educated thinking beings. Religion is there to curtail and control thinking.

Religion has always been used, and still is, to control a large number of people, because many have been brainwashed into thinking that humans cannot live a good life without having somebody watching. Many still think people cannot have a more sophisticated morality than a 3 year old. So, many find it acceptable to be told who you are allowed to play with, when and how. It is ridiculous. Sex is an adult activity.

belly/quote..""Haveing made the earth,""
to rise out of the deep

""are we talking about every God?""

yes every god..[thats so clever]
who thunk it for you

EVERYONE*..says god meaning the one and only good god
[the god of all creation...who's proof is life sustained by the light]via logic reason..known by many names..but as eviodenced..by his creation[glorified in his creations]

there is only one god belly
just cause your re=as-king pericules one liner[dont validate any logic into your question

its much like that question[are you STILL beating your wife]
its clever..but we all are talking of the one god[cause of EVERYTHING..none other

by whatever names you chose to call him
spagettie monster or oden..the god i speak of is the only one
there from the beginning

jesus wasnt god..adam wasnt god
god gave them life..then let them chose how to live it

"""EVE-ry god..and finding he made*
too many false or other Gods,..why not fix it?""

sure re faulse gods
but its not gods job..to change you
your missing what god does..[sustain all life their lives]
full stop..
\
no god..means no life..
thus for me..life means proof of god[fullstop]
i say god done it using nature/nurture.survival of the fitest

nature[al]selection..isnt science selection
til science can ACTUALLY "DO IT"[and it hasnt yet
im going with god dun it..the one god[omnipresent]..not the lord who calls himself i am

[note how god god..then lord lord lord]
but heck i forgot if you know everything ya dont need to read

just say which god
well belly..which genus?
was the first life...prove it

change just one daffoldill
into a rose*..or a potato..or a pea

go on..prove it
the cleverest guys in science cant explain
i know you wont either..better to say which god
i say give proof of no god..or show how men do it..[nadda]\*

Who thunk it for me?
AH, well not you bloke, ok?
Side stepping here, any one else bit surprised about Church, Catholic for sure, getting involved in gay thing?
Yvonne welcome, but for some sex is a kid thing!
I agree however with your words.
But am sad that a church so tainted by sexual assault is seeing others sins not its own?

When David Attenborough was asked if he believed in God.

He said no. Because he could not believe that God would have created
a worm that bores into the eye of an animal or human and blinds them.

I am on extremely dangerous ground.
Free speech is not a fact.
Some things are not to be said.
Some can get you killed.
So with delicacy, thought, carefully, I highlight this.
SOME FOLLOWERS of one GOD again kicked over Australian WAR GRAVES in a country owing much to western intervention.
One climbed up to hammer a Christian cross!
THESE followers, not all, acted out HATE FROM THE MIDDLE NEAR DARK ages.
Tell me, please, why did our great creator make them?
Why must men hate one another in the name of GOD?

Not worth trying to restart the thread.
It was interesting but in truth never was going to be informative.
Even I after asking not to, diverted the thread several times.
So what did I get out of it?
I feel as I did going in to it, sexual control was inserted by men to control women it many beliefs.
Still,and forever, stunned by the thought almost every believer has their God alone is the one, others false.
And in the end I remain convinced it is was and always will be, about control.
And it too must be said, putting a bottom and a fence around human behavior.
In the weirdest way for a non believer, I think we need the last moral rules and fences to live together.