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Sex and Religion

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On our journey from the many gardens of Eden, many beliefs have one.
Or from the caves as us Evolutionists think.
Sex has played a role in our religions beliefs.
I know of no belief that can not find such links.
No belief I know of, there indeed may be some, can point the finger with safety at another.
Some say men must not wed, others throughout time call for Virgin priestess.
My interest, have to ask we refrain from generalized judgments, came about after hearing an ex Muslim lady.
She spoke of 9 year old Brides.
Not I am sure the only creed to have such beliefs.
What can humanity do to protect the vulnerable, do we have the right.
Some one here recently said one world government will never come.
Because of religious differences.
Maybe one day it will, because of that very reason.
If we get a run, lets not be anti one, be by all means anti all or pro all but even the Church I was born in to C of E fights still over women priests.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 11 June 2012 10:49:07 AM
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A complex and divisive subject.
I invite some who would normally never touch such a subject to contribute.
It is not my intention to other than question all of them.
In our modern world can we sustain the view females are lessor beings?
The 9 year old bride stands out but it is not just one belief or culture that has it.
Women are treated as lessor in many cultures even at times unclean.
Yet without the very act of sex we would never have been here.
I could make a case, well you can about any subject, that it is to control women every creed I know of has these themes but is it true.
Was there something in early humans that called for women to be kept within a roll?
I ask believers to understand the thoughts of those who believe in other Gods.
And note the seeming blindness to those who have one different than theirs.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 5:21:55 AM
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Recently Belly on one of your threads, trying to be light-hearted, I posted this:

"I've long suspected that, psychologically, tension between the sexes boils down to jealousy:

A woman knows with absolute certainty she is the mother of her children Ė whilst a man can only hope and believe that he is the father of his."

Levity aside, it is true and I believe from prehistory is at the core of cultural rules, taboos and religious prohibitions around the world.
Posted by WmTrevor, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 6:47:03 AM
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There are eight different forms of family relationships known to anthropology. The dominant one is the one man, one woman, father authority-figure model. The variants include mother's brother authority figure while the biological father is only a person who has sex with the mother but does not have any say outside of that. I don't know anything about the religion of the other seven forms but will ask my anthropologist son.
Posted by david f, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 9:15:15 AM
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many 'holy men'..have done the child thing
in trible societies...the young helped the old
[and if you keep a clean mind...morally a girl serving a sage..is respect..giving her an oppertuinity..to meet the most influential p0eople..live in style..inherit honour..]

till you had a pure love relationship[sans sex]
sans ab/using the other..cause of need..greed lust
or any hurtfull intent;;;

belly i must make it personal
to make my point...

[your walking down the street..with a grandchild[grand daughter]

what do you think others are thinking?

the worst
[just like im honest enough to say..so i would likely think]

heck just seeing a grown man sitting on a swing
beside a child of either sex...

i think...how can i tell..if this is good for the child..
as much as the man..or is he some child pervert

thing is we dont know
our thinking..not only reveals..
that we say..but more importantly..whats going on inside

no doudt you have some rape victim..in mind?
proof the old pervert is abusing?

just be carefull
where kids are..perverts will be
heck who dont love kids right,,,[ya know that horrible word for child pervert]

pedophile..?
[that vile word..simply means child lover
and who dont love kids]...how much fun are kids..but

wait
what would people think

sex child pervert..oh a priest
yep link sex with religion..and what ya got..athiest adgenda

or other perverts
saying..but look at him..that priest serving orphans..

yeah thats got sex written all over it
thats not to say that sex perverts should get the benefit of the doudt

castrate the mongels
but lets not cast stones..the muck just might stick..
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 9:35:52 AM
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Well, thereís religion and sex. And then thereís religion and sexism. Two different things. Throughout history (at least the history we know) sex has been used as a weapon: against women, against men, against change, against stagnation. It has been used to seduce and to dominate. Women are still today, in our enlightened world, raped and brutalized during times of war and lawlessness. Men and boys are too. But such behaviour isnít restricted to these moments and it is not restricted to religious dogma or practices. Sex and tyranny often go hand in hand. Despite what we tell ourselves, we are not so different from any other carbon-based life form.

As most modern religions are patriarchal or stem from patriarchal teachings, it is easy to link sexism with religion. I wonder though, way back when mankind worshipped the Mother Goddess in areas of Europe, whether men were treated any differently to the way women are treated today? Were they simply seen as hunters and sex partners, necessary for procreation and survival against the elements but had little say in much else? We all know there are many creatures who, after mating, eat their partner. Job done. Donít need you any more. Not a nice thought is it? Yet as we drift away from religion, are we so different? Okay, we donít necessarily practice cannabalism (I hope) but the practice of sex or sexual means to procreate and then abandoning the partner to rear the progeny alone or with a different partner, is becoming more commonplace.

Recently, it was discovered penguins in the Antarctic practice homosexuality, necrophilia and infanticide Ė regularly. It is tempting to suggest the anthropologists have it wrong and our ancestors arenít apes after all!
Posted by scribbler, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 10:17:08 AM
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