cont'd ...

Here is another link to provide some
balance to this discussion:

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/how-australia-can-solve-its-asylum-seeker-problems-20110624-1gjlt.html

Dear Belly,

We need more than one liners and slogans to fix the problem.
Malcolm Fraser - argues things rather well in the link I've
just given.

However, I
am aware that we think differently on this issue and that
there are many who feel as you do. My own family members
included. I suspect that this problem will be with us
for quite some time yet. As long as conflict exists globally
and people continue to flee from it.

Hi Lexi,

<<Here is another link to provide some balance to this discussion>>

ROFLMAO

Only someone who religiously reads New Matilda could think that throwing Malcolm Fraser into the mix would “provide some balance”!

ROFLMAO

Let’s just look at one of his points: “Australia needs a solution that involves countries of our own region”
The only solution that might be acceptable to the countries in our region would be one that sees OZ & NZ take ALL of the illegals off their hands!

Malcolm Fraser is walking proof that retired pollies should restrict their attention/activities to pottering about in their family garden.

Dear SPQR,

As I've stated so many times in the past - we may
interpret the same phenomenon - whether its
a PM's policies, a religious doctrine, a
political scandal, and the problem of asylum
seekers or any other social problem - in
very different ways.

We tend to see the world from
a viewpoint of subjectivity - an interpretation based
on personal values and experiences and of course our
political inclinations. Inevitably we're all
guilty of some measure of bias - the tendency, often
unconscious, to interpret things according to our own
values.

Anyway, I'm happy that I made you laugh. Where we would
all have been had you actually read Mr Fraser's comments
and had been prepared to discuss them in a reasoned, logical
manner - the pros and cons of his arguments.

I guess we'll now never know.

cont'd ...

Are you retired SPQR - and do you spend your
time pottering in your garden? Because some
people actually may feel that they have something
to share with younger members of the community -
especially students of politics and international
relations.

Just curious. Because that's sort of an ageist thing
to say about an elder statesman like Mr Fraser.

Banjo, I wonder if one K Rudd will ever be brought to account for this mess.

I mean, of course a whole lot of shonky carry-on was going to happen after our border-protection policies were diluted.

I’d like to know what was really behind his decision to weaken our protection against onshore asylum seeking and how his party and those closest to him, including Gillard, could allow it to happen.

They surely would have known what it would lead to, including putting people smugglers back in business, attracting shonky asylum seekers, causing more deaths at sea, costing us billions, causing a whole of unrest in the Australian community and so on.

So when is Rudd going to face the music?