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Evidence that Illegal boat people are shonks

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StG,
Looks like you finally looked at the DIAC site and got some info, as you have now changed tact.

Forgot the actual percentage, but the vast majority of overstayers are simply tourists who decided to see more while here and after an extra week, or so, leave of their own accord. They are not a burden to us and in fact are still spending their own money while here. No concern about them at all.

The small number of long term overstayers are illegal immigrants and to participate in our society would have to aquire counterfiet documents, cards, etc. From time to time some of these are caught up with, at brothels, sweat shops, building sites and farms, etc. and then deported.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 9 June 2012 9:16:18 AM
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Changed tact? No, I didn't look at the site as I've always known illegal immigrants don't only come from boats and aren't even CLOSE to being where the vast majority come from.

I'm an immigrant, and I did it legally. I have no sympathy for anyone doing it illegally other than genuine refugees.

I'm glad many have found reason to narrow your sights on the people that arrive illegally by boat. Maybe if we curtailed much of the government's wasteful spending we might be able to process HUMANS faster.

Stop the boats? You can't, unless we do everything other than pull a swastika over our sleeves and start executing them.
Posted by StG, Saturday, 9 June 2012 10:35:57 AM
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In a speech still under way,on ABC news 24 Abbott and Morrison are giving the gullible something to chew on.
Let us face it, he is excellent at that.
While the LABOR PARTY is very bad at it,has much to be modest about.
ABBOTT PUTS THREE POINTS IN HIS NEW PLAN.
I support one of them totally BUT.
First only Nehru, no, it will not work.
Two turn boats back when ever possible, wish we could but INDONESIA says no.
But third has both Merritt and is needed if not possible,or is it?
Here we find out if Abbott is chook feeding and if Labor can fix on what people think not what we wish they did.
ANY MIGRANT/REFUGEE arriving here without documents [usually thrown over board] can not receive right to stay.
NOW truth, such person usually is a displaced person no country will except them.
WE CAN NOT SEND THEM BACK.
At the next sitting of Parliament, both party's should change the laws, forget the UNHCR put all such folk on an Australian island FOREVER!
Unless they show us what country they came from and allow us to return them.
This will stop many.
Nehru? say ok but if it is not working in six months we implement Malaysia, have Parliament pass both in to law.
Now for the minority, who will say never, if democracy is letting minority's rule lets put an end to it and have a dictatorship.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 9 June 2012 12:08:45 PM
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Belly,
I agree that we cannot send them back as, without documentation, we cannot prove where they came from, but we can make it undesirable for them to want to try to get here.

We could reopen Nauru and send them all there and only give them TPVs if allowed in, which does not give them right to bring out relos.

If that does not work then tougher measures may be required, such as no citizenship, no public housing and no social security and no right of appeal and no legal aid. We can reduce the quality of life while in detention. If they burn the buildings, they will just have to do without.

Yabby has said for a long time that the refugee convention needs updating, which is right. We could opt out of that.

We probably will see record numbers of boats now untill the next cyclone/wet season. We cannot keep spending $1.5 Billion a year, that money is needed for our own infastructure.

StG,
The boats were stopped before and, with determination, it can be done again.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 9 June 2012 12:55:14 PM
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Its always good to do one's research before
buying into the myths that abound:

http://www.boat-people.org/?page_id=148
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 9 June 2012 1:40:13 PM
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Here's another eye-opener:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/taxpayer-60,000-illegal-immigrants/story-fn7x8me2-1226200621996
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 9 June 2012 2:03:55 PM
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