Never mind, Pericles.

I'm sure there was a typo in the thread's title.

It should read: UN Agenda21 = total "obsession".

Pericles I don't we can believe the Guardian when the very same is happening in the USA under Obama.NDAA,Preventative dentention.Legalised assassination,Patriot Act.I've seen hundreds of Occupy protesters bashed and gaoled in the USA and very little media reporting on our side.

They will do all in their power to demonise Putin because he did not fall in line with their NWO.http://www.rt.com/ is a more credible source of information today.

Whatever your view of The Guardian may be, Arjay...

>>Pericles I don't we can believe the Guardian when the very same is happening in the USA... .http://www.rt.com/ is a more credible source of information today.<<

...what leads you to believe that RT is any more accurate?

The fact that it does not report on the demonstrations, nor the Bill that is working its way through parliament to curb the demonstrators' activities, does not necessarily mean that they are not happening.

So, a pair of yes/no questions for you:

1. Do you believe that Moscow has seen some street demonstrations recently?

2. Do you believe there is a Bill going through parliament to drastically increase penalties for "illegal" street demonstrations?

If the answer to either of these is "yes", then you must lean towards The Guardian's description of what is going on.

If the answer to both of these is "no", then you must be prepared to believe everything that President Putin tells you.

I don't expect you to give a straight answer, of course. I gave up expecting that courtesy from you a long time ago.

But the confusions, like Russian dolls, must mount up when RT.com subsequently agrees with The Guardian – don't they Arjay?

Check out "150-fold illegal protest fee hike backed by Russian lawmakers" Published: 05 June, 2012, 23:42 at rt.com/politics/lower-house-illegal-protests-026/

It included this with respect to the submitted amendments to the bill before being passed through the lower house…

"The reaction from the supporters of the bill was fast and straightforward. “That’s simply like doing what soldiers do in barracks after the lights are out if they have not seen women for a long time,” parliamentarian Aleksey Mitrofanov described Fair Russia’s attempts to delay the passing of the bill."

If only we had such quality of argument in Canberra…

But the good news is that now you can be evenhanded on this topic and lean equally towards The Guardian and RT. Isn't that nice for everyone?

Except the protesters of course.

Pericles Vladmir Putin is here http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/ he said that he told his intelligence agencies to warn the USA of an impending terrorist attack.Putin is amongst 3000 other professionals here asking for an open and honest enquiry into 911.

The Bush adminsitration were warned of impending attacks from all over the planet but ignored them.Anybody of power knew including the heads of our media.That's how the truth was subverted.

I would trust Putin above any Western Oligarch.

"That's how the truth was subverted." Huh… ?

So is Putin correct and it was a terrorist attack? Or are you correct and it wasn't?

Whatever…

I console myself that you're continuing to give us object lessons in how truth is subverted.