Here’s another truly staggering quote from your YouTube, Arjay:

< Sustainable development is the philosophy designed to bring human beings across the globe under the full control of a narrow human elite >

Wow!

This quote and the one in my previous post, along with other amazing dribble, appear in the first one minute of this nine and a half minute long piece, after which I felt no point in watching any more.

This YouTube is titled: Agenda 21 for dummies.

Um…… yes. It’s for dummies alright!!

So Arjay, why are you concerned about Agenda 21 now, given that it was released at the Rio Earth Summit in 1992, and has gained just about no traction around the world?

And pray-tell, why are you against this pretty damn good attempt to engender a sustainable future and a decent quality of life for all of us right across the planet?

Well spindoc, I decided to do some research and actually read what the UN agreed to as Agenda 21 and what I wrote is what is in the documentation.

I often find a little research on original sources, a little reflection of what I find and a little search for the actual outcomes helps to get a better perspective on the issue.

In this case, Agenda 21 was agreed to at the Rio Conference in 1992. That is 20 years ago. If it was intended to be a blueprint for taking over the world, surely there would be some evidence for that happening by now?

The fact that this hasn't happened, that all the predictions of Agenda 21 being a stalking horse for a new world order come from conspiracy-laden web sites that seem to operate in a separate universe, I really have to question the reality of these claims. Most of these websites are attacking Agenda 21 solely because it accepts that human carbon dioxide emissions are causing climate change. I think this is also why Arjay has such fear of it.

Word to the wise, Agronomist.

You haven't quite got the hang of this conspiracy stuff yet, have you.

>>Agenda 21 was agreed to at the Rio Conference in 1992. That is 20 years ago. If it was intended to be a blueprint for taking over the world, surely there would be some evidence for that happening by now?<<

On the contrary, the very fact that we haven't seen any evidence of it is conclusive proof that it is happening, all around us, all the time. There have been literally dozens of examples - 9/11 being the classic - of where the elite banksters have been undermining democracy as we know it, in preparation for the New World Order. We hapless serfs don't realize that it is happening, because it is all so sooper-seekrit - and the reason this sooper-seekrit is still sooper-seekrit, is because the elite banksters are already in control.

Simples, eh?

Now I'm really creeped out...

The only explanation I can come up with as to how Arjay knows stuff which "is all so sooper-seekrit" is that he is one of David Icke's reptilians - and that he's revealling things as a cunning plan of double bluff to lull us all into a false sense of reality.

Agronomist, I’d like to say that it is all too easy to dismiss a lead article from Arjay because there is tendency to lead with conspiratorial themes. (Sorry Arjay, bare with me). This should in no way inhibit other posters from embarking on the discovery process for themselves and then contributing.

Adoption by western politics began much sooner than you state Agronomist.

Article 9 of the UN Declaration of Human Rights (1948-66) states that all people “should promote sustainable development…….”

Sustainable Development as a political construct is not at all wholesome or friendly, it is a control mechanism born of the pessimistic Weltanschauung (“worldview”) we see in such pieces as Teddy Goldsmiths first editorial in The Ecologist , where he variously describes the human race as “parasites”, a “disease” and “swarming masses”; the Weltanschauung that that led the Club of Rome to declare in a 1974 report–“Mankind at the Turning Point”>>

By 1983 it had progressed to more formal inculcation of the new definition of sustainable development. Maurice Strong was appointed by Kofi Annan as the first director of the new UN Environment Program (UNEP). They produced a report called Our Common Future: also known as the Brundtland Report from the United Nations World Commission on Environment and Development (WCED) which was published in 1987.

By the early 90’s we had Agenda 21 plan as part of the Rio Declaration in June 1992, under the auspices of the UNCED. The CSD was created in December 1992 with a five year review of Earth Summit progress in 1997.

The World Summit on Sustainable Development (WSSD) subsequently “strongly affirmed” the Rio principles in September 2002.

After 40 years of sustained adoption, the sheer volume of United Nations organizational bodies, committee’s groups, sub groups, reports, papers, definitions and abstracts is nothing short of astonishing. In addition to the dozens of front line Agenda 21 and Local Agenda 21 (country level implementation) SD bodies, almost every other UN body has adopted its own principles and charter in relation to SD

spindoc, even if I accept everything in your post as true, there is simply no evidence there that Agenda 21 is part of any new world order. At worst it is just another piece of paper written by another UN committee trying to invent a reason for its existence. You still haven't provided any evidence that it has achieved anything in the 20 years of its existence.

So why should we be unduly concerned about it?

It won't end all national sovereignty. It won't abolish private property. It won't limit mobility and individual opportunity. It won't restructure the family unit. It might waste a bit of money, but if we were worried about wasting money there are plenty of other areas to look at.