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I think George Pell supports strong family values as one might expect from a church leader. I was quite impressed with some elements of his performance on Q&A fairly recently.

One of his better quotes directed at the atheist with no real values:

"You dumb down God, while souping up nothing."

(This was a comment on his Big Bang Theory with no creation content.)

To my knowledge, Peter Singer is a Green. He certainly supports plenty of Anti-Life and Pro-Death policies.

I don't believe that support for Home Births and Same Sex Marriage are good family values either.

As for this fellow named Jim Saleam and the United Australia Party, I have about the same level of interest in Right Wing extremists as I have in those from the Left Wing (Greens).

About 18 months ago, I met a lawyer from the Tea Party Movement who said he had had bullets whistling past his ears in the USA. This fellow espoused very extreme religious discrimination. Since then, I heard he got ejected from their group here in Australia.

I don't support racist or religionist attitudes, or any action by government which serves to create them e.g. treating asylum seekers better than homeless Australians; paying migrant workers less than an Aussie.
Posted by Lorikeet, Sunday, 10 June 2012 3:47:39 PM
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Lori, Can you enlighten me as to why the DLP in Queensland is failing so badly. At the last Federal election the DLP could only command 0.46% of the senate vote in Queensland. Whilst the Greens scored a healthy 12.77%, That is for ever 1 person who voted DLP in the last senate election in Queensland 28 voted Green. Even The Australia Sex Party outscored the DLP 6 to 1. I think your party was well and truly rejected by the electorate. Some DLP policies may well be seen as extreme by the voting public, hence the total rejection.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 10 June 2012 8:14:10 PM
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Sex and Green policies are pushed ad nauseam in the media every day of the week.
Posted by Lorikeet, Sunday, 10 June 2012 9:09:27 PM
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Lori, You say: "treating asylum seekers better than homeless." I am not a christian, I do not believe in any gods. But I think of myself as a humanitarian and I am surprised at your comment, as I find it neither humanitarian or christian. A little quote from the bible which I think sums up my attitude to asylum seekers,

Matthew 25,35.36 "For I was hungry, and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.

Matthew 25,40 "And the king will answer and say to them, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the lesser of these My brethren, you did it to me."

Lori, I am gladdened by the news that so many Australians have opened their hearts to asylum seekers in a practical way and taken them into their homes. People doing this despite the viscous and hateful political campaign being run by the likes of Abbott and some sections of the media. Is this not a marvelous way in which Australian can practice "wholesome family values" Instead of it being noting more than some throw away line to be trotted out to make one feel good.
Its not a matter of bring asylum down to the level of the homeless, but rather lifting up the homeless to a level of acceptability. I
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 11 June 2012 7:12:16 AM
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You have extrapolated in the negative on my comment on asylum seekers. Of course the homeless should be housed, just as migrant workers and refugees should be paid equal wages. I said the government was using these inequalities to deliberately create racial and religious tensions (also to empower bankers to eventually take over the housing market and pay everyone peasant's wages across various holdings, including education and health).

Wiping out race, religion, gender, retirement and humanity (as opposed to animality) are all in the sights of those who wish to fleece us using both a tax on air and the redistribution of populations and wealth.

In this morning's news, Peter Singer (supporter of abortion, infanticide and bestiality) has received a Companion of the Order of Australia as a Queen's Birthday Award. This just goes to show what the society is being reduced to.

Singer is a close friend of Bob Brown, and has run as a Greens candidate for the federal parliament.

When I worked in a major university, I prepared material for publication in the world's most eminent medical journals, including the British Medical Journal. Now it publishes all kinds of anti-human ideology, including the soothsayings of Singer.

Far from being a breath of fresh air, most green ideologies have a terrible stench about them.
Posted by Lorikeet, Monday, 11 June 2012 7:47:35 AM
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Professor Peter SINGER
Melbourne Vic 3000
For eminent service to philosophy and bioethics as a leader of public debate and communicator of ideas in the areas of global poverty, animal welfare and the human condition.

Can we take it that the Queen of England supports abortion, infanticide and bestiality. As she has award Professor Singer a gong. Guilt by association. Just because one is willing to talk about subjects you and I may find challenging such as bestiality, such talk should not be taboo as many so called Christians would have it. These people try to find comfort in ignorance. I am a strong believer in public debate as a corner stone of democracy. Unfortunately too many are willing to be lead by those who wish to dictate how we all should live our lives.
You see George Pell as one who "supports strong family values as one might expect from a church leader." I see the same George Pell as one who endeavored to minimise harm to the good name of the catholic church (as if the catholic church has a good name) when dealing with the pedophilia of catholic clergy. A rather disgusting lack of Christianity from Mr Pell, I would say.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 11 June 2012 8:44:38 AM
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