Paedophiles are to be found throughout the community, wherever there are children (everywhere). In my past work as a counsellor, I found most paedophiles were friends, neighbours or relatives of the victims, which had nothing to do with their religious affiliations or lack thereof.

When I was a Cub Scout Leader and another person was a Football Coach, weirdos certainly tried to hang around children and teenagers. I have also encountered a problem with a paedophile in a primary school. There are also people who are falsely accused.

I would certainly prefer that all members of the clergy were able to marry an opposite sex person. Perhaps this might limit unnatural attractions.

Yes, I am very disappointed that anyone would give a known supporter of abortion, infanticide and bestiality any kind of award.

The argument is not about whether or not various issues should be DEBATED, but what is actually SUPPORTED by a particular person or group.

Peter Singer is a Green who argues in favour of very negative things.

Lori, You seem to be preoccupied with Peter Singer and his philosophical views. You tried to say that some how Professor Singers philosophical views were Greens policy. Drawing a rather long bow there. Then as you think the Professor is tainted you tried to discredit Bob Brown as a 'friend of Singer', trying to imply Bob supports such as bestiality.
You also seem to believe all pedophile clergy need is a 'good woman' with this line "that all members of the clergy were able to marry an opposite sex person. Perhaps this might limit unnatural attractions."
I'm sure the majority of clergy simply handle the problem of celibacy with their hand or their housekeeper.
Do you think the 'sickness' of homosexual men could also be fixed if we were to marry them off to a 'good woman' as well?

Sorry, this is not worth answering.

Greens members support a clean environment, but not many of the other policies including:

Abortion (open slather)
Same Sex Marriage
Home Births
Euthanasia
Bestiality
Global Communism
Peasant Lifestyle
Excessive Empowerment of Animals (often supported by Vegans)
Devaluation of Human Beings (as above)

Do you stand by what you posted in claiming bestiality, global communism, peasant lifestyle etc is Green policy? I can not find any of that rubbish about bestiality, global communism, peasant lifestyle etc listed as Greens policy, can you?

I already told you that many policies are not posted on websites.

We can only look at the evidence before our eyes. This includes a Greens candidate who supports abortion, infanticide and bestiality ... also the same person receiving an award from the Queens' Honours list.

At the last federal election, the Greens in my electorate gave out the HTVs of a very militant green midwife posing as an Independent, in addition to their own. She also passed her preferences to Greens.

A return to home births is a recipe for more maternal and neonatal deaths. A midwife doesn't have an ICU, surgeon or operating theatre at her disposal in the event of an emergency. This is peasant anti-life ideology, that takes away people's access to state-of-the-art medical treatment.

These days animals have better access to medical care than humans.

It is easy to see from the distintegration of this thread and off-topic debate, why this country is in such a shambles. Reading the last 5 or so pages has been akin to watching Question Time.

Lorikeet, Peter Singer is a bioethicist and philosopher who has done much to bring to light issues of animal cruelty, euthanasia, and human morality vs religious dogma, to name but a few. Please read his books and do not rely on Wikipedia to present the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

When political parties, large or small, confuse governance of a multicultural society like ours with pushing religious or moral agendas or, worse, sidestep the issues and avoid any real debate so as to appease all sides, nothing is achieved. Least of all progress.

Getting back on topic, the 2.9% pay rise, like so many other ‘handouts’ we have seen in the past few years, is akin to putting a bandaid on an infected open wound. Cover it up and, hopefully, it will heal itself. At the very least, we won’t have to look at it again for a while, or be appalled by the pus oozing from the wound or the stench of rotting flesh.

The only way to truly move forward is to radically change our entire system of government. Not merely voting for independents, which clearly gets us nowhere, but a full all-out change. Now, who’s up for the challenge?