i wunder if it works the other way too
if them 50,000 jobs 'created'..at huge expense

em-ploy[ed]..only one hour..each..
its the spin..thats the sin

us is at 25% plus
but by clever selectivity..we sit at 5
[govt dont measure cost...they just want the low blow numb-er]

Employers are only screaming out for SKILLED staff with experience.They don't want to train people its to hard.They just go to the labour government and demand skilled migrants and they get what they want no question asked.

@ spindoc

"I thought I read a couple of weeks ago that the Roy Morgan unemployed poll showed about 8.5% unemployement.

This was because the ABS now counts work of 1 hour per week as "employed" Can anyone confirm this?"

The ABS has been defining it that way since 2001, spindoc. It's not a recent thing as your comment infers.

See page 7 of the following link:

http://www.tai.org.au/documents/dp_fulltext/DP36.pdf

Of course, one has to ask why BOTH the Howard 'conservative' government, and the current 'progressive' government, both think 1 hour per week is a valid metric.

The research by Richard Denniss back in 2001 is somewhat dated but given the controversy now, also somewhat prophetic.

Perhaps there really is a good reason :)

50startingagain, the reason many employers are reluctant to train, is because it costs a lot to properly train a good worker and, many are only on loan from the mines, just waiting for that call up.

Consultants are out there being paid huge money, yet bosses, hands on trainers, receive pittance for their efforts, that's if they even get paid at all, as Another huge problem is that unless the trainee signs all the forms, you the employe/trainer, get so frustrated trying to get your subsidy, that you often just give up.

I personally have spent hours chasing payments for apprentices, only to be told I can't get them without the trainees signature.

Of cause, this causes distractions and takes ones focus away from their primary role, that being managing their business.

Rethctub That brings up a another major problem government RED tape.

i sem to recall mention of educating the 1700 gina migrants
does govt give them any cash..for taining the imports

indeed does govt put in infastructure
[like origen does for gas pipelines/warfs etc
as the departed qld alp govt says infastructure..is why our power has doubled abouve inflation rate..

free infastucture for windfarms/other alternate energy..
free training..free minerals]..gee someone is getting a free lunch

but i seem to recall,..docters restricting docters numbers
then when howard privatised..and all the docters went private
we now got imports..[many actually trained here lol]..but affectivly in the main plunderd from some third world..much like their other asssets

we dont need to import
but lets ask why..what govt cash cow treat's they suckle at