SPQR, yeah, that brought back memories of embarrassingly idiotic illusions of my young adulthood.

Belly,

So ...... tsunamis are, what ? caused BY, or actually cause, climate change ? Tsunamis and climate change - you learn something every day.

By the way, in today's paper, there are two 'highest maximums' for the eight capital cities around Australia over the past decade (actually since 2000, so 13 years), and one 'lowest minimum', so a balance of one reading of 'highest maximum' for the decade across eight capital cities.

There is an interesting article today in The Australian about Western Sydney becoming hotter over the past fifty years or so. As an ex-Westie, I do recall plenty of bush around Bass Hill and Penrith in the fifties, and a lot of it in between. But pretty much all of that would be suburbs, roadways and factories nowadays, so it seems reasonable to expect that more heat would be generated and/or trapped in man-made structures, bush would have been cleared and temperatures would have edged up - what they call the heat island effect.

Of course, a lot of us 'feel' that it is hotter now than before, especially those of us moving up the class and air-conditioning ladder. With age, too, I suspect that one feels the heat more (and the cold as well). But I'm still waiting for another 46-degree day here in Adelaide to equal the hottest days of the early eighties. Or similar temperatures during my childhood in NSW when we used to lay under the house to keep cool.

Cheers,

Joe

Dear SPQR,

Oh my good chap, honestly?

You troll through at least two years of my past posts in an effort to find something to discredit me only to flag something completely erroneous like my questioning the use of drones in Pakistan (what that had to do with AGW I'm yet to ascertain), then have the cheek to start blubbering about me raising quite pertinent questions about Dr Roy Spencer's affiliations.

My god man can't you see what you are becoming?

You guys keep wailing whenever I use your tactics back at you. I repeat, its a sure sign of a bully. This is not the normal way I would argue a case but you guys have set the scene and I'm just following the cues.

You really need a change of tactic. I mean when you get pulled up for tossing Gina Rinehart and Alan Jones into the debate you really shouldn't now be adding Andrew Bolt for god's sake. I respect their climate credentials as much as the next man but enough is enough. If that's all you have perhaps it might be time to be quiet.

Dear Hasbeen,

You said; “Come on Steely, you question my integrity, but you won't answer the climate-gate story.”

I certainly question why you would claim something was published by NASA when it clearly wasn't, if you consider that is questioning your integrity that is your call.

As to the so called Climategate, I'm not sure I have much to add to the 9 separate inquiries all of which completely exonerated the climate scientist involved. Do you?

SPQR: am also waiting on your answer re the false predictions of Tim Flannery , our esteemed Climate Change Commissioner.

Steely doesn't do answers if it's against her Steely glance, er, sorry, stance. Haven't you got that yet? She wouldn't answer mine either & banished me to the boondocks. Oh! G;day mate. I see you've been banished too. I wonder whose next. Well... at least it's warm in here.

CSteele,

<<You troll through at least two years of my past posts in an effort to find something to discredit me only to flag something completely erroneous like my questioning the use of drones in Pakistan (what that had to do with AGW) >>

Little to nothing to do with AGW --but given your propensity to disqualify anyone even marginally associated with The Heartland Institute or Alan Jones or Gina Rhinehardt or a hundred other interests -- much to say about your principles.


But hey, look, you seemed to have missed my question --here it is again:

How are we to believe your predictions & models when your highest authorities/representatives cannot get it right?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/it-pays-to-check-out-flannerys-predictions-about-climate-change-says-andrew-bolt/story-e6frfhqf-1226004644818

Jayb,
Its been cold where I am.

I'm starting to hope the warmists are right-- bring on the warm change.
Either that, or I'll have to do a (counter)climate migration and move closer to the equator.

Cheers!

Dear SPQR,

You haven't asked me a complete question, all you have done is put to me “How are we to believe your predictions & models when your highest authorities/representatives cannot get it right?” but then not detailed what those predictions and models are nor where they got them wrong.

I'm hardly going to delve into a link of a person our own legal system has described as “…at worst, dishonest and misleading and at best, grossly careless.” and who has a proven record of verbaling the likes of Mr Flannery.

If you have specific details you can post them here and personally put your name to them. I'm getting a little sick of writing fulsome often double post replies and then have you lot retort with a hundred words or less plus another link.

Stop being lazy.

What I'm not getting sick of is dismantling everything you have thrown up thus far. That has been a riot. So much so I note we have just passed the 200 post mark and I reckon we should shoot for 300. Just keep feeding me the material. I'm sorry for bogging the thread down earlier by trying to talk on the science. Sometimes I can be a little slow at picking up what you lot really want. May the slanging match continue, I aim to please.

Dear Poirot,

Thanks for the link.

“that climate change is a Trojan horse designed to abolish capitalism and replace it with some kind of eco-socialism”

Hell's Bells. Experts at shifting the focus aren't they. I think I'm probably allowing them a little too much leeway here as well but sometimes it is just too much fun in the mud with the rest of them.

Loudmouth! enough! mate no time for snoozing.
I was rudely if you wish, comparing the ability to think, of those dills who went down to the beach.
Set up chairs,right in the target area, to get a Good view of their own death if it came.
With your fellow it is not true us blokes are mugs deniers.
We all know its whales scratching their backs that bring Tsunamis!