Luciferarse

you proved MY point.
You wrote 'You send in your form with one of the qualifications boxes ticked and your name goes on the petition'- unless it's yours, eh? Yet you still failed to reply to my statement 'I note that you have not disputed the credentials of the legitimate petition signers'. That tells all, doesn't it??!! Even when you tried to discredit Frederick Seitz, you never questioned his credentials.
You quote "Opponents of the petition project sometimes submit forged signatures in efforts to discredit the project. Usually, these efforts are eliminated by our verification procedures. On one occasion, a forged signature appeared briefly on the signatory list. It was removed as soon as discovered." but did not include a source so maybe you made it up. Who knows? Going by your previous posts, it could be pure fantasy as reality doesn't appear to be your strong point.
FFS, you can't even answer direct questions so what's the point of trying to get through to you?

Senatus Popolusque Romanus, that was a good link you gave. If only the blind-faithists would take note, this lunacy could be buried before our industries are reduced to 3rd world status.

AP: If only the blind-faithists would take note, this lunacy could be buried before our industries are reduced to 3rd world status.

I just feel that there is else something going on. Call it Conspiracy Theory if you like. Big Governments, Big Corporations, Big Banks, Religions & other Organizations have lots to gain in keeping the world population in turmoil. That’s Control. It matters little which Party is in power in which country. All parties within all Governments work together to control their populaces’.

This GW is only one of many schemes by world Governments to move money around. There is enough Gold around to make toilet seats out of it. & cheaper than wood or plastic. Everything is kept at an artificial value. Just look at general goods you buy. When they first come out, they are just so expensive. Within a few years they are giving away a better product free with a hamburger. Wars are an internal arrangement between countries to keep prices at an artificial high so some people can control other people. Medicine is controlled by the big Chemical Companies. I you find a cure for almost anything you can just bet it’s put underground. Alternate Energy. There are people who have proved that Energy can be provided cheaply. Suddenly all goes quite or the person disappears & some big Corporation has brought the rights to manufacture. & that never happens. Sharich for one.

I feel that there is just something more than funny going on & we’re all fools in the game. We are all being controlled.

SPQR,
sorry, cringe,embarrassed, feel silly.
cheers

Dear Hasbeen,

You said “Do ther (sic) rest yourself.”

My pleasure, you really are a gift that keeps on giving aren't you.

Let me know if you haven't conceded the paper was not published by NASA as you originally claimed.

But first a point of order, you really need to either place in quotes or give citations when you copy and paste practically verbatim. It is disrespectful and discourteous to the original author and secondly the unsavoury charge of plagiarism may well be levelled at you and we wouldn't want that.

The use of the word 'alarmist' signalled you were not quoting from a proper news story and indeed you weren't. It was an op-ed piece on the Forbes.com site (whose motto is “"Home Page For The World's Business Leaders") in July last year by one James Taylor who is a senior fellow for environmental policy (note policy - not study) at, you guessed it, the friggin Heartland Institute! Their version of our IPA and yes funded by the likes of Exxon-Mobil. These blokes are everywhere.

And who else writes for the Heartland Institute? As stated earlier, your Dr Roy Spencer. That really shouldn't disqualify him but obviously raises questions. So let's find some answers.

A quick whip around Wikipedia reveals some interesting facts about the good doctor. Firstly he is on the board of directors of the George C. Marshall Institute, a conservative think tank based in Washington DC.

“Historian Naomi Oreskes states that the institute has, in order to resist and delay regulation, lobbied politically to create a false public perception of scientific uncertainty over the negative effects of second-hand smoke, the carcinogenic nature of tobacco smoking, the existence of acid rain, and on the evidence between CFCs and ozone depletion.” Wikipedia

Newsweek called the institute a “"central cog in the denial machine".

Okay, I could still almost live with that one, but the good doctor is also on the board of advisers for the;

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Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation which “is a conservative Christian public policy group that promotes a free-market approach to care for the environment that is critical of much of the current environmental movement. In particular, the Cornwall Alliance rejects claims of man-made harmful climate change.” Wikipedia

In 2000 the institute released the Cornwell Declaration which “sets forth an articulate and Biblically-grounded set of beliefs and aspirations in which God can be glorified through a world in which "human beings care wisely and humbly for all creatures" and "widespread economic freedom…makes sound ecological stewardship available to ever greater numbers."

Nearly lost me but I'm hanging in there so let's try and pretend all this has zero bearing on the good doctor's paper, something quite generous since if the roles were reversed you lot would have strung him up by the gonads already.

Sure others who had access to and studied the same data set came to entirely different conclusions than he did, still even that is acceptable. Ultimately it comes down to competence right? I mean why would his paper get published in a journal such as Remote Sensing if it wasn't impeccable science?

The only problem with that is the then editor-in-chief has since resigned “I perceive this paper to be fundamentally flawed and therefore wrongly accepted by the journal. This regrettably brought me to the decision to resign as Editor-in-Chief―to make clear that the journal Remote Sensing takes the review process very seriously.”

I think Dr Spencer just lost me.

If I had known beating up poor, rabid AGW sceptics was so such a hoot I would have indulged earlier. You lot always come out swinging so belligerently but pop in a few well aimed jabs and you just seem to go to water. Jayb, discredited and impotent, SPQR is now in a foetal position last seen trolling through my posting history to try and get something, anything, he might use. You have all been very selfish keeping all this fun to yourselves.

So Hasbeen, who else you got for me big boy?

Just for the record I have nothing against anybody taking a sceptical approach to AGW. It is those who take it upon themselves to be self-appointed attack dogs that get me going. I'm just having a little nip back (and admittedly kinda enjoying it).

P.S. Can someone give individual an Asprin and get him to a have a lie down. I think he is a tad rattled.