The distinguished Chief of Melbourne University Press,
Louise Adler listed in The Age, her disagreements with
Tony Abbott and they are:

1) The treatment of asylum seekers. 2) The republic.
3) Religion. 4) Abortion. 5) Stem Cell Research.
6) Homosexuality. 7) Global Warming. 8) A worrying
tolerance for hate speech. 9) A noisy contempt for
one's political opponents.

All in all Tony Abbott is described as -
"an ideological throwback to the 1950s and we're told that -
"the once great Liberal Party of Robert Menzies, as
imperfect as it was in many ways by contemporary standards
was a political nirvana compared to what Mr Abbott will
dream up."

It's interesting that it was Malcolm Turnbull who was
invited by the prestigious London School of Economics to
air his views on the need for long term thinking and
leadership in the face of the extraordinary rise of
China. It was Turnbull who received the invitation -
not Mr Abbott nor the Foreign Affairs Shadow - Julie Bishop.
Although I believe that Malcolm Turnbull did send a copy of
his speech to Ms Bishop.

Paul on this matter RM has re put his starve them quote to rebut my concern.
I reacted to his quote way up the thread.
It seems to have different targets for this form of death.
In truth not even in my lost days of childhood communism did I call for any one to die.
And still would not.
I would feed any human my last feed, rather than see this type of torture death take place.

It is amusing to see all the left wingers clucking like chooks about who they would prefer to lead the foxes.

The reality is that Abbott is highly regarded as he has almost single-handedly brought labor to its knees. MT would have continued to be a respected leader of the opposition, TA will be leader of the government.

SM, I refer you back to my last post and add a few more pertinent questions.

What would Abbott do to steer Australia away from its utter dependence on fossil fuels and minerals and record high immigration and towards a sustainable society?

What would Turnbull do?

Which leader would be more inclined to take a sustainability-oriented line if pressure was applied from Labor and/or the general populace and which one would dig his heels in and remain an antisustainabilityist dinosaur?

These really are the big questions. This stuff matters about as much as everything else put together.

Any thinking Australian shouldn't give a rats as to who leads the Liberal Party Malcolm Turnbull, Tony Abbott, a merchant banker or a defrocked priest, the result is always the same. The same applies to the Labor Party who really cares who sits up front, Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd, Miss Piggy or Ron Zook from South Park. No change on the horizon under these guys watch. They all follow a set agenda and that agenda is not under their control.

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Raw Mustard swapping verbal shots at each other is of little use.
Lets agree we do not like each other.
From your first post I found we never would.
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If it make you feel better. Me, I really don't give a hoot either way :)

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I have been hungry very much so.
And in truth would give my last feed away rather than see someone starve.
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Anyone that goes hungry in this country is a sure fire sign they haven't got a clue. Perhaps if you had spent more time learning a valid skill rather than relying on the good fortune of others you would have been able to feed yourself better?

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And those you want to see starve?
In my view are likely to be at least your equal.
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My equal at what exactly?

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The time it took to respond highlights this.
You come and post, only some times reading others contributions
Best read every new comment before posting ,be informed.
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Did it ever occur to you that some of us don't trawl this forum 24/7 looking for some derogatory post aimed at some crap, liars party so we can jump on the poster and attack them with the vigor of a rabid dog?

That some of us may actually be working hard to make up the shortfall after the parasites have taken their share to pay for all the belly's in this world that are going hungry? So that we might feed our selves and our family in the manner they deserve!

That some of us might actually have a life away from these forums, one of family and reality?

That it's not worth reading half the junk posted on here by left wing junkies because it stems from pixy dust, ideology rather than reality?

cont'