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Malcolm Turnbull - as an alternative to Tony Abbott as PM!

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Not much value in a couple of those posts.
It was not members who picked Gillard and Rudd.
Not members who picked Abbott Turnbull, Nelson, Howard.
And in a day yet to come, after Abbott slips over his inability to think other than negativity.
It will not be Labor voters who pick Turnbull again.
Palin? hasbeen , you have to be kidding!
She would give your day Lilly's root rot!
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 7 April 2012 4:48:55 PM
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I'm quite amazed at some of the responses.
Accusations are flying with very little
evidence to support the assertions being made.

First and foremost Malcolm Turnbull has taken
very conservative positions in many areas.
People seem to have forgotten that Mr Turnbull
significantly watered down the CPRS legislation.
His amendments included, among others,
significant increases in compensation to
polluting industries.

Based on his conservative outlook it could be
very possible that watering down the current
carbon package could definitely be on the agenda
of a Turnbull government. I can't imagine any
scenario where Malcolm Turnbull would strengthen
climate laws as Prime Minister. So you conservative
posters out there don't know what you're talking
about and you are mis-judging the man.

Mr Turnbull is also conservative in other areas as
I stated earlier.

1) He recently stated that the Fair Work Bill has
gone "too far."
2) As leader of the Coalition he argued for the
re-introduction of Temporary Protection Visas
and for off-shore processing for all asylum seekers.
3) He continues to oppose means testing for the
private health rebate, the Minerals Resource and Rent
Tax, and the NBN.

I can't understand why some of you are so dead set
against the man. Take a look at the ministers who
would come with him. Based on his shadow cabinet
when he was leader - a Turnbull prime ministership
would result in a cabinet including -
Eric Abetz, Christopher Pyne, Peter Dutton,
George Brandis, Warren Truss. And certainly Sophie
Mirabella, Cory Bernardi, and Michaelia Cash would
be given positions of power as well.

So what's the fuss?

The man is an excellent negotiator, he's a realist and
knows when and how to negotiate to achieve what is
necessary. He explains things in a way that makes
sense - and all in all is impressive. Although he is
conservative - even on same-sex marriage - (although
he's pro - he understands the reasons some people
are anti) - so he's not agressive about things.
You know where you stand with him.
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 7 April 2012 4:54:24 PM
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The only reason Abbott is popular is they havn't released any policies as yet, there isn't any thing to judge them on.
They are dreading the economics, of it all.
Big Joe has been very much in the shadows.
Abbott is the only one that makes any kind of sound, and then it's not on economics.
It's more like he's been digging around for some kind of slime.
Trying to crucify someone without a trial.
He will do anything except mention politics.
What he can't get around, is the economy is going along quite well. Considering all the bumps and pitfalls that has been going on around the world.
Posted by 579, Saturday, 7 April 2012 4:58:23 PM
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Well said Lexi.

Maybe many Labour supporters on this site are too worried by the obvious threat that a very bright Mr. Turnbull may be the saviour of the Liberal party?

If Runner and Hasbeen support Abbott and dislike Turnbull, then that's definitely all the more reason I need to vote for Turnbull :)
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 7 April 2012 5:03:01 PM
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the economy is going along quite well,
579,
Are you of sufficient integrity to admit that this ok economy is to a large extent due to Howards much ALP maligned GST ?
What would the present Government do were it not for cleaning out the future fund put in place by a much more competent treasurer that the present one.
There's no competence in using other peoples' money.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 7 April 2012 6:59:25 PM
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Yair, Turnbull? I dunno. I used to despise him bit he’s sorta grown on me.

I reckon he’s got the potential to be a good leader, ‘cept for one thing; he’s a conservative, not a progressive sustainabilityist!

Lexi, you give a pretty good outline of the man. But the crucial point is; would he be good for Australia.. for our future wellbeing…for a sustainable society?

Um….. there’s not a lot of indication that he would.

In fact if he was to be elected, he could set the sustainability cause back a long way. His intelligence and highly articulate expression could engender a strong following and entrench the same old dinosaur continuous-rapid-growth-until-we-crash-and-burn doctrine right at the time when we desperately need an entirely different political direction.

As far as I’m concerned, he’d be an excellent leader if he listened to Bob Carr, Kelvin Thomson, Dick Smith, Ian Low, etc and embraced a stable population sustainability paradigm, and a really dangerously bad leader if he didn’t.
Posted by Ludwig, Saturday, 7 April 2012 7:39:35 PM
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