http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/labor-sleeps-with-the-fishes-20120406-1wgtl.html
This link is like an arrow in my heart.
It is so for many reasons, first it is mostly true.
Second that word,once the marching tune I marched to, SOLIDARITY.
It no longer says unite and fight the good battle.
It today says cover your head,tell your self its a Tory lie, and march your party straight over the cliff.

We, both movements must confront, this truth, we fought work choices and won.
We then held every state and the Federal government.
We got lost, look at us now.
No we are not all bad, our policy's are far better, time, not much of it,will confirm our climate change actions the best, an achievement to be ours forever.
So much better, almost every thing we have done or plan to do, that Abbott's Conservatives and his self interested backers wealthy and influence but devoid of morals.
Yet we could not sell ten dollar notes for 5 cents.
Gillard seen by her cabinet as brilliant, has no such reputation here in voter land.
Did we read the $300.000 a year salary of some union heads?
Is that true.
We must not wait till every state has fallen, till ten years of opposition is in front of federal Labor.
Find some one unafraid of facing defeat, and reform first, both movements.
Before the roof falls on us not after.
My party and my life's companion unionism, must separate.
OH back Labor but not have half the votes not control.
One gets dirty both should not.
We must never see another health services union,scandal.
Bigger unions, less of them, more control/supervision, cut cost before raising members fees.

Runner! the actions of Smith are above reproach.
He rightly, has refrained from informing us of just how much your good man should have been ashamed of.
Further sex crimes there this week remind us women are still not safe in that place.
Had the woman been your daughter,you may have shared my pride in Smith and his actions
PS
Not a fan of him for other reasons.

Belly,
The treatment of the woman was endorsed by the union members. That means they do not care if their leaders are corrupt. They attack the messenger, who was looking after members interests. That says a lot about the morality of these unionists and taints members of other unions as well.

I find it surprising that you introduce Abbott into this conversation. Surely the opposition is right to raise matters of propriety of any MP and the government. It is called accountability. Similarly the NSW Opposition is right to raise issues related to the NSW Premier, re the Casino inquiry. Again accountability!

It seems the ones selling 'rotten fish' is the government, simply because it has dragged on for 3 years. Why allegations of fraud are handled by industry authority is a delaying tactic by government. It is a police matter. Three years to investigate is a joke. It implicates the government as an accessary, after the fact.

There sure is a bad smell around the HSU, its members, the government and unions generally, that will hang around for a long time.

You have been let down badly by both your party and the unions. I feel sorry that you have to witness this.

Too right, Belly. JWH's education and training record was very shoddy, and his pilfering of foreign skilled workers was parasitic. But then Rudd came in and took the pilfering to a new level. State balance sheets across the nation are well in the red because of this idiocy.

Recently a co-worker's son finished an apprenticeship and went off to work in the mines. That is the way I would prefer it to happen, but it requires government to subsidise the apprenticeships. It would be interesting to compare the training costs for young Australians with the infrastructure cost of importing skilled workers: I think it may be more cost effective to source the workers locally.

<time, not much of it,will confirm our climate change actions the best, an achievement to be ours forever.>

Ever heard of OIF, Belly? It is heresy for the Greens.

http://drs.nio.org/drs/handle/2264/3885

The appalling thing here is that the scientific research has been stopped on ideological grounds. OIF has the potential to capture carbon, make fisheries more productive, and perhaps even increase rainfall and the earth's albedo. OIF could thus be economically beneficial, making it unique as a CO2 and climate mitigation measure. But none of this can be determined because of the unscientific opposition of green groups.

Following the dogma of green high priests like ET Bob limits the solution to barring any technological advance since 1750, excluding solar panels and windmills, and including deodorant. Such a dogmatic approach is very unlikely to deliver a useful solution.

Belly,

The unions themselves have been far from pro active on this issue. The extent of Craig Thomson's corruption has been publicly available for years, and only now that the fall out from the union cover up is starting to smear the union "brand" that the ACTU has severed ties with the HSU.

This affair is an indictment on the entire union movement too.