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The Green's Conference was a Shambles
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Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 5 April 2012 11:09:12 AM
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Well I think I do owe you an apology Bazz reference Communist plots. You are right - on re-reading, it was another poster.
You did query my reference to multi-lateral organisations which seemed an odd question, given it was in reference to your own link. I have not read the Greens policy manifesto on their website for a while but do not recall anything about a one-world government in the way you infer. Bob Brown, at the conference, talked about a more cohesive global approach for the greens particularly in relation to climate change and environmental issues in the context of green voting. However, further reading and searching could not find a link to a one-world government policy. The only thing I did find was a reference to a parliamentary assembly within the UN system that would be "composed of representatives of national parliaments but ultimately it should become a body that is directly elected by the world’s citizens. As representation of the world’s citizens, we believe that a UNPA, among other things, should be involved in all important intergovernmental treaty negotiations." That is "involved in intergovernmental treaty negotiations" which already happens now through other ML bodies such as the WTO. At least the Greens option means a vote for citizens in relation to the UN and I suspect it won't be one-man-one vote but one-country-one vote ie. each nation voting for it's own represenative who sits on the Assembly. That is more democracy than we have now where any UN posting is decided purely by government. PS: the quote above came from right winger Andrew Bolt's blog, same quote just his interpretation was self-serving. I wondered if we had even read the same paragraph. This is very different from a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT policy if you read the statement carefully and would not impact on the sovereignty or independence of country governments any more than the status quo. Posted by pelican, Friday, 6 April 2012 12:36:16 AM
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Hi Bazz, I did not mean to imply that it was you who was saying its all a communist plot when I posted:
"I assure you the claims that Greens are communists is totally untrue. There is no secret agenda within the Greens to take over the World as some would have it." The "some" I was referring to were others, people in general, not you as you had not said that. I apologise that my post could, and was, interpreted as you saying that. One thing that has struck me about the young people in particular, I have met from the Greens, and from Labor and the Liberal parties as well, although very idealistic their hearts are certainly in the right place when it comes to wanting to see a better Australia, I hope as they grow older they never change. Politically I think Australia, like the rest of the world, will face some very difficult times tomorrow, with mountainous challenges to overcome, I am confident the young of today, well at least young Australians, will be able to meet those challenges head on. Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 6 April 2012 7:12:31 AM
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paul/quote..""I took a friend to a Greens meeting.""
so you had an invite? and bought a guest? mate i found a greens meeting just outside of canberra [by syncronicty]..and at the time was a fully paid up greenie[monthly deduction etc] i wasnt allowed in but you know how to right? ""My friend..She spoke with and questioned a good number of members including members of both state and federal Parliament,"" sounds like more than a 'local meeting' i can see myself outside it..unable to get in your invited right? must have a high position! ""there was about 200 people there.....""including members of *both state and federal Parliament""" not a local greeny gathering [6 people yebbering ..about the next action with one bossman..that gets invite to the next inner circle meeting? ""After the meeting I said to her.."What did you think?" She said "I want to join The Greens."... how many greenies/ need i lead...to get into this meeting? that meeting [a deligates meeting}.. right? Posted by one under god, Sunday, 8 April 2012 12:55:14 PM
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Paul 1405, writes: "Politically I think Australia, like the rest of the world, will face some very difficult times tomorrow, with mountainous challenges to overcome, I am confident the young of today, well at least young Australians, will be able to meet those challenges head on."
I am so thrilled that Green's are openly grazing here on OLO. I haven't been able to get one to provide a cogent party line on the following thread: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4897#130772 I am really struggling to see how Greens could possibly see themselves as a part of guiding Australia in the future when they are going to be smashed to smithereens at the next election. I apologize for re-raising the thread, but the issue is a sleeper that will be upon us again as the next election approaches. Please start a new thread, Paul1405 and supporters, rather than cluttering up this one to explain the Green's strategy to remain relevant without political power. Posted by Luciferase, Monday, 9 April 2012 1:46:04 AM
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I may be wrong,I like every one often am.
But our mate Paul dreams of things that others consider nightmares. I had dreams not unlike that,basically in the way they did not relate to reality. Hunger did that, pumpkins and spuds for tea skins for breakfast,true hunger. Big bush family,equaled hunger. Dad would have kicked me,Communism,then Socialism, he was the second I once the two. I dreamed. Only a dictator ship could change this country,or the western world to green. At least my upbringing was from the bottom, greens are middle income or higher,never needed to dream about food or a home. Would you vote green? A party that rises and falls,within a small margin, as Labor rises and falls in popularity. 8 to 14 percent is its margin. Conference a shambles? why would you think it would not be. Within that conference the last communists, lost extreme socialist,and a hundred other small groups stood. All convinced the rest of us just need educating. Posted by Belly, Monday, 9 April 2012 5:34:17 AM
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Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 7:50:28 PM
It seems that both Pelican and Paul just make up whatever they want
and accuse others of saying it.
Not very friendly that.
Personally I don't think the communists are the basis of the Greens
as they are too amateurish and if the communists were running them you
would see more professionalism and more undermining of other
organisations by "greens".
The greens are more honest than the communists which is why they tend
to be more intense and chase airy fairy projects.