This is democracy in action. Other political parties would do well to take a leaf out of The Greens book and start practicing a little bit of grass roots democracy. Too used to having it all imposed from above, I suppose. The Labor Party have their Big Union bosses to tell them what to do and say, the Liberals have their Big Business bosses to tell them what to do and say, no room for the little bloke. I have a novel idea for the Labor and Liberal parties, why don't you give your rank and file membership a say, like The Greens do, or does that smack of communism!

Paul said;
why don't you give your rank and file membership a say, like The Greens do, or does that smack of communism!

Now there is a statement of nonsense.
The very last thing the party secretary ever gave the members was a say.
Not even which prison camp they were sent to !

Pelican said;
I assumed given you posted the clip that you had listened to it,
multi-lateral organisations are mentioned in the early part of the meeting.
How can you criticise something if you clearly don't know what it is.

I did not critisise multilateral organisations !
I critisised the conduct of the meeting.
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Pelican said;
This is not as Bazz wrongly asserts about a global voting system but
enhancing a system of global accountability so that the dictators of
policy do not hold court over basic democracy particularly in
countries where there is little democracy.
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Oh yes it is ! Bob Brown said one man one vote one government.
He made that quite clear. I heard him say it.

Pelican said;
But Bazz you have cleverly avoided my the main question. How is this
clip indicative of a Communist plot?
You can divert the question by focussing on defininitions but I am
still not sure how this clip supposes a Communist agenda or a world government.
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I am beginning to wonder about you. Is there a problem with you ?
Nowhere did I say there was a communist plot !
What on earth was your main question ?
You really need to understand what someone writes before you make
statements like the above.

My dear Bazz, I implore you "Come out of that dark capitalistic cave you inhabit and join us in the sunshine of a Greener world." The only future that holds promise for tomorrows generation is a 'sustainable future'. I assure you the claims that Greens are communists is totally untrue. There is no secret agenda within the Greens to take over the World as some would have it.
On Sunday I took a friend to a Greens meeting. My friend has been a Labor supporter and a strong union person all her life, skeptical of The Greens, so often calling us 'a well intentioned bunched of ratbags'. I had no motive taking her to the meeting other than giving her a chance to meet with, and listen to, Greens, never expecting her to join the party. She spoke with and questioned a good number of members including members of both state and federal Parliament, there was about 200 people there. After the meeting I said to her "What did you think?" She said "I want to join The Greens."
Belly not sorry mate, but you just lost another one. I must say one young bloke I met really surprised me. He was brought up in a very active Liberal family, joined the Young Liberals at uni and very active with them, Admitted that at one time he was very anti Green. Got involved in some social justice issues and through that found the Liberals were not for him, He is now not only a Greens member but wants to run for public office. We have all kinds of members.

Dear Paul,

Inspiring post. Extremely well argued.
I had the pleasure of meeting and talking
to the Green MP in our electorate recently.
And I must admit I was impressed by his
total honesty, openess, and logic. He was
well informed, knew what he was talking about,
and was very persuasive.

Paul said;
I assure you the claims that Greens are communists is totally untrue.
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Where did I say the greens were a communist plot ?
I think you are repeating what Pelican said I said.
Well he made that up.
Just go back and read what I said, not what others say I said.

I have heard the accusations that the greens are green on the outside
and red on the inside, and there are previous communists in the greens
but for all I know they may have become enlightened.

My comment on this whole thing was that the conduct of the meeting
was a shambles and anyone who watched it could not think other than
the chairman was out of her depth.
Also I said two motions, one an amendment were both passed and you
just cannot have that.
Either the amendment fails or the amendment becomes the motion and
is then voted upon.
With an amendment only one policy motion can be passed.
I never said anything about communists !