The thread had a good run not a lot of different posters but think it did ok.
I used the term culture, and stand by it, all groups, and to some extent work places have a culture.
Police back one another up, life is often in danger and they need to be able to bank on a mate.
At such times we all do.
And few could claim not to have told a white lie, to cover for a mate.
But I too spoke of the value of a good cop, no community could pay their true worth.
Police world wide, from the very first police, in England, have had the bent cop in them.
Some more bent than not, in America for sure.
Australia, can if it wishes lead rather than follow.
And by developing a new strong culture, return trust.
But just maybe, we need to drop references to harsh law and order reforms, and reform!
People walk out of court after swearing at police, or walk the streets again, after killing them.
If we demand so much. maybe we should change our views and protect them too.