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Posted by Belly, Saturday, 24 March 2012 11:05:08 AM
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But we tend to look more at the criminals rights than the victim.
Belly, That is just so true. Our present system does not afford any benefit of doubt to the victim but gives a double dose to the perpetrator. I called the Civil libertarian office for some advice & was told "sorry, we're on the other side of the fence, we're criminal defence lawyers" . Ain't that just great. The Government funds the crime but lets the victims go broke in the pursuit of justice. Heil ?? ! Posted by individual, Saturday, 24 March 2012 5:13:20 PM
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but will come after a few pot users who do no harm.
Arjay, don't blame the Police for that. They don't have any say in whom or what to pursue. The shifty judges & lefty do-gooders et al are the ones who prevent the Police from policing properly. The Police is forced to watch a thief stashing stolen goods away because in order to grab him they'll need to chase up a JP first to get a search warrant. Can you imagine the outcry if Police searched a house without a warrant ? Can you imagine if Police caught a crime because they got a tip-off but can't name the informer ? That me lad is the true picture of our justice system. The Police is merely an innocent bystander. What if they didn't tazer some fruitcake & someone got hurt. We'd never hear the end of it whilst some shoddy lawyer is rubbing his grubby little hands. Posted by individual, Saturday, 24 March 2012 5:24:23 PM
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Individual mostly what you say is true.
But I think nothing is impossible. And that true and honest outside review of the action of police, can improve the situation. I do not blame the soft left, greens, alone for break downs in law. I actually think all sides are to blame, and that costs of prisons, come in to play in sentencing. My head is full of two recent, very questionable [ in my view police murders]actions bringing death to UNARMED PEOPLE. Not criminals. A Detective, from near here, spent 20 years in the police. He cracked after watching a SNR Detective MURDER a criminal, on the say so of,another criminal. He died a drunk, but told everyone who would listen, never trust a cop. Now we have moved on, but why do we hide the crimes of authority figures like police , ministers and pastors teachers and such. Justice, those three wise monkeys may be pulling our legs. Truly refusing to see hear or speak about evil is no good idea. Posted by Belly, Saturday, 24 March 2012 6:19:10 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYKIDl4-tYQ
Not in Australian but truly represents every thing I fear in police culture. SOME not all, how do we know what group we are dealing with at any time? And why would they become the criminals they chase? Posted by Belly, Saturday, 24 March 2012 6:27:24 PM
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Dear Belly,
I agree with you. Sound reasoning will conquer unreasonable generalisations every time. And certainly not all policemen bash handcuffed men or taser them 13 times. Not all policemen attack homeless people in malls or shoot 15 year old troubled teenagers dead or take violent action against protestors, or get people killed in car chases and so on. However, these examples do speak to a wide culture of police violence that even police commissioners have acknowledged. Obviously this situation needs investigation and steps have to be taken to correct it. Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 24 March 2012 6:48:52 PM
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And life should be life for such crimes always.
And I mentioned drugs and prostitution because both generate corrupt police and politicians.
Truly legalize both and get it out of any criminals hands.
It can be said sentencing is weak, and the costs of imprisonment may be one reason.
But we tend to look more at the criminals rights than the victim.
Police have always committed such crimes, in every country I know about.
That changes nothing, it remains wrong, it is my view the latest an unarmed young man, was murdered.
And I believe, as is normal, police have already changed every truth they need to, to cover up as much of this crime as they can.
IT IS the culture, if you are *in the job * it covers you.
A lot of my information comes from mates.
In the NSW police force.
Try if you will, but a good cop MUST ignore a lot or go under!
A story about deaths in custody or cell deaths, unarmed killing by aremed officers, even the non police killing in America currently of great concern.
Can be found some place in the world about every hour.
We can do better, remember, not every victim even had a criminal record.
My thoughts are with those who lost this latest young man from another country, his crime, not being a thief!
Not being armed! being frightened!