Belly I have been to a few protests. The workers lockout at Port Botany by Patricks and the Liberal government to break the union, that was one protest I must say the police acted very well, I don't think a lot of the police had much sympathy for the ports owners, not that there was a lot going on most of the time, mums would bring down some sandwiches and tea for the blokes and the kids were running around playing, bit of a family day. However can't say the same about the police actions at the anti Vietnam war protests years ago. Seen police remove their badges and with the aid of neo-nazi thugs wade into the unarmed protesters and bash heads and cart people off to the lock-up, charges of assaulting police and resisting arrest followed. Hummm, a 6 stone 20 year old girl assaulting a 16 stone police Sargent. So many conservatives at that time supported the heavy handed police action, the same old "These trouble makers are getting what they deserve, tell them to get a real job etc etc."

FBI Training Teaches Agents
They Can ‘Bend or Suspend the Law’
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/03/28/fbi-training-teaches-agents-bend-suspend-law-107812/

The FBI taught its agents,..[*among other unbelievable things],
that they could sometimes..bend or suspend the law..in their hunt for terrorists..*and criminals...

next we look at how the state
treats thus[us]..seen as an 'outside threat'

almost a quarter of Fukushima residents/hospitalized in the aftermath of last year’s devastating earthquake and tsunami..were treated as having a “psychiatric disorder”..because of their concerns over radiation.

The phenomenon of authorities underplaying the threat posed by radiation or even characterizing concerns over it as a mental illness has become a dominant theme ..ince the catastrophe just over a year ago...
http://www.infowars.com/fear-of-radiation-treated-as-psychiatric-disorder-in-fukushima/
this is despite the fact that Japanese authorities were caught over and over again lying to cover-up the true scale of the disaster.

you may recall...ddt was touted as a 'vitamin'
when the real truth came out..[now docters say fraking is great]
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/03/for-pennsylvanias-doctors-a-gag-order-on-fracking-chemicals/255030/

global warming warning wrong[again]
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304636404577291352882984274.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

rabbi says rape in war if ok
http://972mag.com/idf-colonel-rabbi-implies-rape-is-permitted-in-war/39535/

Britain once fought a war with China
over Britain's "right" to sell opium to the Chinese people.

how about their queen
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/233402.html

there is too much 'cop' stuff on tv..!
murder mystrery..good guys doing bad things
to get the bad guys..[or bad-dies]./.and ever so much more lies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzY7KQA2EsQ

its the media
[you come home from a hard day
beating up unionists or protesters

then sit back and listen to:cops[or murder she wrote of csi[you could name at leasst ten[20?..cop type 'shows'[training ...'the force'

'bad boys bad boys
what ya going to do..when we come guning..[for you too!]

how the media
does some of it
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29938

Lies Taking Us To War
http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28790
http://12160.info/xn/detail/2649739:BlogPost:814634

Truth is the most valuable thing we have,
so I try to conserve it. –Mark Twain

http://naturalfertilitybreakthrough.com/articles/are-your-cosmetics-making-you-infertile/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-188524/Shampoo-link-male-infertility.html
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/israeli-accused-of-plot-to-sterilize-egyptians-with-shampoo/

Paul I too have been at many protests, lock outs strikes and gate meetings.
Unlike the left we met police and talked before the event.
Yes saw kickings and some bad stuff.
But too I saw trouble makers fools and idiots get in there trying to start trouble, then screaming police violence.
Want it clear my brand of unionism is based on honesty not trashy actions.
Class warfare is rubbish.
I do not see in this thread the law and order monsters foot prints.
And the subject is about the wrong people in uniform not the average.
a bent cop is a criminal.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/latest/a/-/article/13296610/ex-cop-should-get-long-jail-term-crown/
The crimes of this cop should shock us all.
It is not Representative of police.
My point in posting it is this, some are against a thread such as this.
A seeming wish to ignore such claims.
To pretend a special place exists for those we respect, police included.
I only want to highlight it is not true.
Crime is not just hoody wearing folk.

Belly: Good thread, I have not come out expressing total support for the police as you did with your opening line. But we might have some common ground here you and me. I'll let you into a little secret About 7 or 8 years ago one of my sons came to me about joining the NSW police, I didn't advise against it, but did say if you want to join then join for the right reasons, not for the power of the uniform but to serve the community in a positive way. As things panned out he didn't go through with it.
The police in Australia have not enjoyed the best of reputations, always been a few bad apples, just ask Ned Kelly, but I think that is true of any police force the world over, power corrupts. Its a dangerous job, we are passing the 10th anniversary of the murder of Constable Glenn McEnally, in my local area. Just recently Senior Constable David Rixon, was shot dead in Tamworth. a lot of the work involves dealing with some very nasty people, dealing with terrible events, not the job for everyone.
However, as a community we entrust certain powers to the police and as a community we must be vigilant that those powers are not being abused. When ever there is suspicion of abuse it must be independently investigated. At times it needs an inquiry on a grand scale such as The Wood Royal Commission, other times a more modest inquiry. I think honest cops welcome these inquires, they want to be seen as doing the right thing, and they as much as anyone want the bad eggs exposed. Belly do we have any common ground?

Yes we do Paul, I had some contact with the victim in Tamworth, no better bloke served ever.
See I was country official and served that area RTA briefly.
Both murdered by gutless grubs.
I played football around the state with many.
Got to know even more in attending road trauma events.
One, a great bloke used to pick me up on the road at work, take me for a run.
He was a champ and a mate, but his radio played up and I returned it.
Paul most of my information, about the grubs in uniform, came from cops.
No place to live with out them.
Yes we do not like them but that is in part why some are so difficult to deal with.
An ICAC senor Inspector, investigating a totally corrupt group, most of one station said these words, in asking me to change my mind and sign a statement.
*It is the old heads who set the culture, if we can remove them the young ones will fix it up*
Never happened,I never made that statement , some police got caught in a trap and left or got sacked.
But same tricks different faces.