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Abbott's Conservative Party

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Question time today once more became a circus.
Was it the 43rd time? Abbott went for extra time to talk, by putting up that standing orders be stood a side.
He, as has been the case all week, knew he would fail, not gaining support but seeing it rumble out the door for bad/dreadful behavior.
4 or was it 5 of his team in the sin bin, one Labor Minister too, it could have been three.
The flea Circus continued, Abbott as ring master in his usual form, staying as remote as he could from truth.
We could have seen debate about real problems.
But as government Ministers answered questions, then supplementary from the same questioner.
Abbott's circus performed like Jungle monkeys on the other side.
Christopher Pyne in his usual was as red with rage I truly thought he may have a heart attack, fine acting Sir.
Indonesian defense and foreign affairs met our same and spoke just before the dark question time.
Just think, in government Tony Abbott has promised.
To turn every boat back!
CONSERVATIVE? murder on the high seas more likely.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 15 March 2012 4:54:36 PM
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Belly I get your drift about 1975. There are parallels with now. The media is purposefully and under instruction from Media owners, providing misleading political coverage the LNP opposition are in league with them again.

In those days the the LNP were most probably also in league with a foreign power or 2 in the devising of a plan to unseat or derail a reformist Labor Gov't as well. That could also be so today.

But there is an opposite now Belly, in that the herd mentality of today was not possible then because the youth of those times were politically informed by real coverage of war for example.

Today the youth have a political instinct honed by imbedded journalism. Youth then, did have an education that provided history and therefore historical context. Today all one has to do is press the emotive buttons, even if it bears no resemblance whatsoever to reality.
Abbott has honed this to an art form.

In 75, big money and the Coalition eventually won the battle then, by means most fowl.

The youth of the day was dead against that and wanted to retain the Whitlam Gov't. Only 3 yrs earlier, the same Whitlam Gov't had been instrumental in ending the Vietnam War and ending conscription in our country. The young then, were in favour of these things. Political protest then, was en masse. Today it is reduced to a few hundred bare chested youths draped Eureka Stockade flags for all the wrong reasons.

However I do believe (and it's comforting to think this for me) that the young are voting Green, showing that progress as always still comes from our youth. After all it is naturally their future we are talking about now.

On the political side Belly I would rather see Labor do some of the things the Greens want to do, like including gold in the mining tax, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen from either side. Leaving me leaning Green. This is where the Labor vote is drifting too, certainly not to the Coalition.
Posted by thinker 2, Thursday, 15 March 2012 6:58:10 PM
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thinker 2 what I say about greens is not to hurt you or them.
It is not out of fear of them, but fear of what they can do, to all anti Conservative forces.
IMPOSING minority views on this country is, in the end, destroying the left of center, for a time.
Lets take boat people and refugees.
Your view will be, in my opinion onshore processing.
Boats never stop costs to us,tax payers, diverted from things like health and education are in the billions.
Right now Conservatives are flogging the ALP on this issue.
Both greens,and Abbott's Rabbits prosper by the discontent generated.
Yet both, BETRAY AUSTRALIANS.
Most want it to end, want to be told the costs of this refusal to stop the boats.
The private members bill,letting us send refugees to ANY COUNTRY that is part of the Bali group.
If they agree, sets out a solution, one that links us to a regional answer, and stops the boats.
Tell me thinker 2, how can you be other than unhappy that Greens dance with Conservatives on this issue.
And tell me truly, are you aware while your team grows from its NEGATIVITY it strengthens the hostility MOST have for it.
Government should ideally be by consensus.
This issue surely, must be fixed not used to win points to defies the wishes of the most.
My Labor colleges, will be deeply hurt,but if Abbott wins, then calls a DD election, bank on it, if Labor has not confronted by then the anti greens feelings.
Abbott will have total control in both houses,all party's serving democracy must confront the greens.
Abbott wants to turn the boats around,but look at greens , see who else stands behind deaths at sea.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 16 March 2012 5:27:57 AM
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