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Does Julia deserve to survive?

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Coherent, succinct and balanced is they way I would describe Lexi's post SM.

Referring to Lexi's sobriety as a counter argument lacks any of those qualities SM, and is devoid of respect. Your pulpit it looking a little shabby.

The Business Spectator link you posted Yabby, panders to it's constituents(the rich and powerful and the would be rich and powerful) and could hardly be accused of any balance whatsoever.

I see Indian Mining Magnates complaining about our Mining and Carbon taxes today Yabs, perhaps we should just let them buy and mine our resources and employ our citizens for a chapati a day for the greater good of Australia ?. Seems Clive Palmer, the LNP and they (India's magnates) are in agreement.

The truth is , that if we left our resources (which we own), in the ground at this time, they would simply increase in value. The notion that they would take their business to Zimbabwe or some other place, is false. There is no other place that offers the political stability of Australia and the massive, easy to get at resources.

They are on the greatest wicket ever, and their obscene wealth and the symptomatic meglo-mania they display demonstrates this. This is their public face. What on earth are they up too privately ?.

In other news today, the Victorian Gov't and Marshall Bailleau was photographed showing the bird to protesting nurses.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/baillieu-apologises-for-giving-the-finger-20120307-1uk0u.htm

Nurses who can't get commitments re patient care and ratios, and pay from their employers (the Vic Gov't) whom, did a sweetheart and dirty deal with the Police Association before the election over the very same sorts of issues. It is an unmitigated disgrace in my opinion.
Posted by thinker 2, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 6:42:04 PM
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*The Business Spectator link you posted Yabby, panders to it's constituents(the rich and powerful and the would be rich and
powerful) and could hardly be accused of any balance whatsoever.*

Not so, Thinker 2. Business Spectator is part owned by Alan Kohler
and that article was written by Robert Gottliebsen. Kohler appears
nearly every night on the ABC news.

If the information that they put out is not accurate, they would not
last 5 minutes.

You confuse opinion with facts. What is happening with public
companies and how they make their decisions, is very much public
information, especially a large company like BHP.

The real problem here is that as an arty type of person, you really
don't have a clue as to how business operates and it shows.

One minute you complain that workers wages are going down and when
miners provide thousands upon thousands of people with 6 figure
salaries, you still complain. Perhaps you just like complaining,
Thinker 2.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 7:46:02 PM
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Lexi,

The coalition stands for efficient government that regulates good business practice, and environmental controls, but does not create vague and restrictive red tape that prevents entrepreneurial endeavor.

The coalition believes in governmental involvement in capital ventures only when the nature of the market indicates so, and does not want to have anti competitive regulated monopolies such as the NBN.

Similarly taxes should be a last resort to fund infrastructure to promote future business education, health, and welfare.

Welfare is a safety net not an alternate lifestyle, and with the appropriate safety net in place, there should not be a right to remain employed, and businesses need the ability to get rid of employees that are no longer productive.

Business and employees need flexibility. The one size fits all assumption that all businesses work 8am to 5pm, hurts businesses that don't fit this model, and EBAs that pay everyone the same for the same job position means that an individuals extra effort receives no reward.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 8 March 2012 8:15:16 AM
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No mention of the Victorian Gov't I see Yabby.

The Anti Federal Gov't front page of the Herald Sun in Melbourne today amounts to nothing more than dangerous sedition. Sure to invoke more death threats to our PM. This has got to stop.

They haven't mentioned the State Gov't either Yabby, whom it seems can act with absolute impunity without the slightest reporting or examination from the Herald Sun. Linking health and the carbon tax by airing a completely biased report that is nothing more than incitement aimed at the low brow, is disgraceful.

You claim I have no understanding of business as your position Yabby, but let me assure that even musicians know the difference between right and wrong. My fear is that you don't care about this at all.
Posted by thinker 2, Thursday, 8 March 2012 11:57:43 AM
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I didn't bother to read the information about Victoria, Thinker 2.

You had made some wild claims about Business Spectator, after they
published an accurate picture of how things are in the BHP coal
union dispute. I responded to your claims. Feel free to wander
off on your own little tanget if you wish, but I will focus on
the nonsense which you claimed.

If you understood business, you would not be making such foolish
comments.
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 8 March 2012 12:04:31 PM
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Dear SM,

Your arguments are indeed looking shabby as Thinker 2, pointed out.
We all know that you are capable of quoting the Liberal mantra -
but how about presenting us with constructive evidence of what
you claim are the facts. We would be delighted with some humour
in your presentation. Waiting for your reply - and not the
usual BS please.
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 8 March 2012 1:58:41 PM
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