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Does Julia deserve to survive?

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Dear Thinker 2,

The concept of the Opposition is the politics of money and power.
Theirs is the ideology of greed, filled by an unbridled
commitment to "individualism. It leaves no room for social
security, compassion, or the idea of an egalitarian society.

Theirs is an absurd viewpoint - in which business has the right
to get whatever it wants. Is this in the best interests of the
working people of this country? I don't believe it is. Neither,
thankfully, does our current government.

Of course, unions need to be more sensitive to the realities of
modern economic conditions. Sectarian attitudes and greed serve
the cause of labour badly. We are in critical times and Australia
requires a reassessment of the relationship between labour and
capital, a reassessment which takes into account the politics of
industrial democracy, profit, and job sharing, and long term
planning which allows for the proper protection and preservation
of our environment. What we don't need
is the "kick-the-worker-today-and-take-the-money-tomorrow,"
attitude that comes from the Cold
War warriors who are currently at work around the place.

The only way in which the country can work properly is for
management and labout to co-operate with one another, not
condemn one another. But the sad truth is that condemnation is
the only language that the Opposition and Big Business seems to understand.

Take this quote from Peko-Wallsend boss Charles Copeman:

"It isn 't a matter of conciliation. It's a matter
for arbitration. We are not prepared to conciliate!"

Obviously the inevitable expansion of capital with its
attendant social inequality and natural destruction brooks
no interference and allows for no moral judgements.

What a great pity that the glorious mess of money and greed
that makes up part of the world we see on television every
night is the vision of conservatives come true. Mr Abbott
and his colleagues should not be encouraged to allow it to
come any closer to home.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 11:00:56 AM
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Lexi,

Your last post consisting mostly of delusional fantasy about what the coalition stands for leads me to recommend that you avoid driving or operating heavy machinery.

I don't think that there was any ever danger of you voting for the coalition, and given your rant I am surprised that the ALP isn't too right wing for you. Perhaps you should join the loony far left of Lea Rhiannon.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 11:56:08 AM
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Dear SM,

How did I get it wrong?

You mean to say that conservatives do believe
that both government and associations of
working people (unions) should
be able to restrict the proper application of capital (money)
in the economy? You mean that it's not their view that people
either sink or swim. And that welfare is good for business?
You mean that they are not anti-conservation, anti union,
anti multiculturalism, and anti government? You mean they don't
believe that big business has the right to get whatever it
wants? That theirs is not the politics of money and power?
That theirs is not the ideology of greed, filled by an unbridled
commitment to "individualism?"
Are you trying to tell me that secretly you're not really a
conservative? Well - who would have guessed? So you guys are
prepared to conciliate and the quote from Charles Copeman,
(Director & CEO of Australian, Mining Co - Peko-Wallsend Ltd)
doesn't apply? Interesting.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 6:32:16 PM
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cont'd ...

BTW - Thank You for your concern however I don't
drive or operate heavy machinery. And as for your
suggestion of my joining the Loony left? That is
not an option that I have ever considered. But then I
haven't considered joining the New Right either.
I don't like being pigeon-holed and I'm not really a
joiner.
And as for my not voting for the Coalition - I
would (and have done so in the past) - but not
under the current leadership - and its
front bench.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 6:52:56 PM
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Lexi,

Yes, you are wrong in every just about every case, and is as nonsensical as my comparing the labor party to Stalin's regime.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 5:33:44 AM
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Dear SM,

I would love to be proven wrong in just about every case
However so far the records has not been good.
As for comparison's with Stalin's regime and Labor?
You'd better research your history on that score.
Otherwise you're going to look even more foolish.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 5:47:26 PM
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