My absence for a while, has no doubt been good for some.
But too proof this big country gives no reason to forget we are not all served the same.
Some years ago, after great problems even getting on line at any speed via land line, I received government help.
Satellite, paid for me as one of hundreds not able to get any other service.
Never met its promises but it was very good in comparison to 26 to 56 KB,s on land line.
Here the copper is aged and fades at the first drop of rain, an exchange unable to handle the optic fibre that passed us by mid Howard era.
I return now on wireless, the tower not even built one my leaving land line is a great help.
Difficult however for the average user, it took external aerial, but at very little cost.
Not going to mention my ex service provider, they may care to advertise here.
But after initial contract I was offered insurance,and took it, for 3 years.
After that, as problems became more likely, no insurance was available?
And service stopped.
For the first time, yesterday, while testing signal strengths, I climbed on my roof.
And found recent torrential rain, had flooded part of the dish.
Never offered a service call,at my cost, but offered yep! a full NBN system, 3 times in fact, at no costs.
I am in favor of NBN but waste concerns me, I over and again, informed my provider NBN site was informing me, wireless had come to my area.
And others? telling me, no wireless can be found here.
An adventure, but for 30 dollars,I am receiving full strength signal.
My donga instead of being plugged in to the PC on my desk, lives at the end of a 10 meter cable up the mast.
From a 486 15 years ago to wireless how much further can we expect?

English archaeologists were digging at a depth of ten metres when they came across an old copper line.
They declared that this was proof that England had telephone a hundred years ago !
Not long after a scottish team was digging at twenty metres and found a copper line.
They declared that that was proof that Scotland had telephone 200 years ago !
Not to be outdone an Irish team dug to thirty metres in a peat bog and found absolutely nothing.
They excitedly declared that that was proof that Ireland had wireless 300 years ago !

good to see ya posting again
maybe now..we will get more notices[my inbox looks empty..comparitivly]

the game is changing ol mate
recall we all go dig'etal/..tv..soonish

then all that new spectrum..will be released
if you recieved tv...you gotta recieve the web..[via that specrum]

but the cost of that spectrum
thats the huge key mate

those in high traffic areas
will pay billions..for the airspace
and those in areas like yours will go for a song

except then
you need to become a service provider
[and your govt mates have set that game up..so bying in
will cost you lot...in low desity areas..NEEDING THE SERVICE]
compared to the cheapnness..of that actual/old tv specrum bandwidth

in the end you will still have little ol mate
and costing ya the earth

heck when signapure[singe/yapoor][opt-us]
a govt..sells us web acces..prices our fuel price
accordinmg to their super priced fuels...[and how much more]

ya just know
its not about getting us online
as much inline[sukkers only please]

we use your super contribution
to make you pay the earth for acces to services
cause its all about the shareholder..and who votes on the share

and who gets what bonus
for what sir-vice

I can, at best raise a quite but pain filled groan at that attempt at humor.
But thank you for it, it helps prove my point, we are not all served by the same urban conditions.
Small country towns, some of 2 or 3 homes, are subject to ancient lines and sub stations.
My area is one, but it now has hundreds not tens of connections.
Still 120 klm from our third biggest City, NSW, we get subsidized satellite, full NBN via land line, slow to nothing via land line, and wireless.
NBN will not change this, wireless seems the only long term here.
Not enough users and very hilly country = high costs and that says no upgrades.
Shame, truly, mobile towers can not be shared by all providers.
Considering the right to take private property even if not wanted by owner, install towers.
And considering by tradition, towers have been used by all services for years.
Some hill tops have masses of antenna on a single tower.

belly/quote..""we get subsidized satellite,""

funny how you say 'we'
lets egsamin..this we..who get govt subsidy

govt pays you
you pay for the satilite acces
in short all the cash..goes to stalite provider

WHO BUT FOR THE CAPITAL..from govt and you
would soon go broke...!

cause that teqnoligy..is a dead end
[as any affordable solution]..if it did go broke
capitalists,,[specularers]..would do their capilalist game
for cents on the dollar..and make it work...not by govt teat subsidies

corperate welfare
govt picking winners
now to that next eliphant

""full NBN via land line,""

fibre to the node
was subvetted..into billionswhat 6 million./.turned into 60 billion?

for what?
for doing what we payed telstra to do
[via COMPLUSORY line rental acces cost]

BUT WHO DIDNT..
who spent it all on dividend..for capitalists

let the copper decline..didnt replce copper with fibre to the NODE!

''slow to nothing via land line,..and wireless.""

yea that renting the landline
was wasted..billions..that raises
like fuel taxes..

*should go..where its meant to be going[updating]
not shareholder proffits

yep mate your right
""NBN will not change this,""

unless it immediatly restores the node
serrves direct,..not via agent...for commision's
via tricky lies and odious terms and conditions

""wireless seems the only long term here.""

ya could have mine
i got copper available here
but dont use it..cause of the acces fee
[lol]..to maintain the line

grrrr

""Shame,truly,
mobile towers can not be shared by all providers.""

no towers needs go direct peer to peer
every phone links to every other phone
much like computers pick the best path

others can form networks
in the expired tv air space
gotta clear out capitalist from one specrum
basic acces...and 1 gig per month..should be free

use double pay double
use tripple pay double

the biggest users
are the greates abusers
for every service..[water/power...etc]
the more you use..the more you pay

those wanting acces..in high/traffic 'zones'
naturally subsidise those few
like yo

Unless our internet providers go the rest of the world way of not placing limits on downloads then anything more expensive than presently is sheer pointlessness.