I am afraid we have come to the end when it comes to real reconciliation with these people.

We have spent the last thirty years working on the wrongs committed to previous indiginous generations, by previous uronpean generations, culminating in an official apology, only to have it all undone in one fowl swoop.

It took thirty years to take that one huge step forward, yet only took thirty odd minutes to take thirty steps backwards.

Let's face it, they will never be happy and will continue to blame us for buying that VB carton or sniffing that paint, with money that was GIFTED TO THEM by the tax payer for the purpose of providing the basics of necessity.

I am afraid this is simply a lost cause and as I have said before, I feel the time has come for them and thier leaders to decide who wants to be Australian and who doesn't.

It never ceases to amaze that we so often hear the mantra that Australian history has been sanitized.That people have been kept in the dark about the true nature of early white black interactions. And Thinbker2 (sic )--true to his nature --exploits it here:
<<Then along came John Howard spending 100's of millions of tax money on changing textbooks in schools extinguishing the truth about the annihilation>>

Yet even a cursory examination of library shelves will show that it is widely covered.In fact, in many local libraries it's the only view of history on show. And if you look at the responses on sites like OLO there is no shortage of posters who seem to know only an extreme black armband version of history. Albeit they are wont to quote dubious sources like New Matilda & Robert Manne as if they're biblical verse, to support their one-eyed views.

Far from being a secret version of history, the black arm band version is very much en vogue. And unless you do our own research you're not likely to hear much to the contrary.

And the myth making goes on. Anyone who has had the good fortune to visit the Sydney suburb of Redfern recently will see posters lionizing Thomas, or 'TJ', Hickey. And anyone who doesn't know the background could be forgiven for think Thomas Hickey had been hanged, drawn & quartered by the police by the police (another martyr for the cause!).

As long as there is an ALP then it'll be that long that we'll have disunity. Let's face facts. How many of the stirrers are conservative ? How many of the stirrers actually contribute their own share of funding ? 99% of stirrers are hangers-on unless of course their employers are rather lenient. Let's have a referendum stipulating where you want your tax dollar to be spent on.

Dear Joe (Loudmouth),

A bit of genuine research certainly does help.
That was the point of my previous posts.
And I am pleased that you intend to continue
working towards greater understanding of the issues
involved. We should dispel the myths and the lies,
and the distortions. This continues to be an
important debate in this country.

If you've been at it for 40 years as you claim, then you
have a great deal in common with historian Henry Reynolds.
He's been doing research for over 40 years.
He was educated at the University of Tasmania. He worked
for thirty years in Townsville at the James Cook University.
His primary research interest has been the history of
Aboriginal-white relations in Australia. His publications
include, "Aborigines and Settlers," "Frontier," "The Other
Side of the Frontier," "The Law of the Land," "Dispossession,"
"With the White People," "Fate of a Free People," and
"An Indelible Stain," and of course - "Why Weren't We told?"

From his research, to his personal encounters in North
Queensland jails, to his work with the injustices towards
Aboriginal children, to his friendship with Eddie Mabo -
Henry Reynolds has shattered the myths of our "peaceful"
history.

Dear SPQR,

I get it - you don't like reading New Matilda, or Robert
Manne, or the University of Tasmania link that I provided
including the vast bibliography of further reading given
under the "Frontier Conflict," heading at the end.
Possibly your preference lies with the vested interested
and big corporations who control the media - and people
like Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt.

To each his own.

Dear Individual,

You asked how many of the stirrers are conservative...
Which stirrers are you referring to?
Those that own and control the media?
Or people like Alan Jones, Andrew Bolt, or
our politicians?

As for income tax - strange that you object to money
being spent on one group as a means of redressing the
disadvantaged inherent in our society but you make no
mention of the tax loopholes that the wealthy enjoy.

thinker 2

Michael Mansell Quote: (1998c)

.#...Other Aboriginal leaders feel constrained by the current political climate. For them, pursuing Aboriginal demands depends on how much public support there is. In other words, Aboriginal justice is a matter of popular opinion…#.

...Duel criticisms are levelled against Aboriginals for firstly taking from the patronising hands of Governments, the largess proffered from politicians eager and compliant to UN charters of HR; and on the other hand also criticised as lazy layabouts through disincentive these very same contributions appear to create.

...What Aboriginals wish for themselves, was the point of discussion in the peaceful meeting at the tent embassy in Canberra, on that now fateful day, which will enter the history books as a moment of National multicultural shame: But the judge is out on whose shame it will be.

...If we explore this question using the policy cry from some entrenched OLO posters above, and inspect the evidence, then quite clearly both sides of Politics are entirely to blame. Firstly, without the inflammatory and totally illinformed and impeccably badly timed comment of Abbott on Australia day; of all days to make such a comment, Australia day would feature such comment as malicious. Secondly, as Abbotts comment incited a riot; Gillard and immediate staff members, in true “Clown” form, stepped forward to perpetuate Abbotts inflammatory statements in order to capitalise on the Aboriginals sensitivities, for political gain.

...What this event does, is expose the existence of establishment racism of the highest order. Aboriginal people were publicly used-up on Australia day 2012, and spat out by a compliant media, all too anxious to continue the blame game, long before the truth of the matter was to expose itself for the set-up it was!

...The saving feature will be though, however this event was engineered, Aboriginals will now be seen in the light of the oppressed minority that they are. It will prove to be a mighty “coup” for the cause of Aboriginal sovereignty, the feature discussion at the peaceful tent embassy gathering on Australia day 2012. (Thanks to the joint stupidity of Abbott and Gillard).

Lexi,
again you're twisting my words. where did I object to helping the needy ? I am advocating stipulating where people want to spent their tax dollar. You'll find 99% will include helping the needy. what they want include is wasting money on those who don't need help.
I make no mention of tax loopholes ? are you serious ? Who is the most ardent pusher for a flat tax on this forum ?
You really need to take a step back & think about what you're saying.
I have thought about it long & hard & watched & observed for many years & I know that the ALP wasted way more than the conservatives ever could. It was under the ALP that the indigenous communities copped the short end of the stick not under the conservatives. Those indigenous who say otherwise aren't genuine & they're in the pockets of the ALP. Integrity & ALP are like oil & water, they do not mix.