Dear RObert,

It's big of you to admit that you were wrong in
blaming Labor and I agree that context is important.
However - before making any judgements - it always
pays to Google subjects - one usually finds more
than one source on the web.

The problem here is that we have one party that absolutely MUST forge a solution to the boat problem versus another party that absolutely MUST NOT! The "must nots" have the power in this and, like a cat, is playing with the mouse. "No" is so easy. Meanwhile, desperate people are dying.

This is surely the nadir of Australian politics, making "the dismissal" look like a high.

The Greens must see by now where blind principle can lead. In human history, it has led to some of the greatest injustices. Pol Pot comes to mind.

Given that Mr Abbott has put his own personal ambition ahead of life itself, I call upon the Greens to counter him with the pragmatism needed.

Greens, consider how much longer you want you influence to extend. You have established a beach-head in Australian politics that will quickly evaporate if you perceive a beach-head alone as victory.

Greens, your moment has arrived

LF,

What we have is a labor party that must fix the situation where people are dying that it created, and is proposing a solution that sends people including unaccompanied children to countries to fend for themselves with little or no protection. It allies in government The greens) are so disgusted with it that they prefer to have people die on the high seas.

The opposition has offered a solution that works and gives the refugees the protections required under the UNHCR charter.

The Labor government has said NO to off shore processing unless it is any where but Nauru.

RObert this you should know.
I am no crawler, I understand you are from the opposite side of the fence.
But too you are a balanced poster,I hold no concerns about your minor mistake.
You rise head and shoulders above another in retracting it.
Lexi thanks,I do not research well, but do not lie either.
3 times in question time the statement was made direct to him, he never defended himself.
I should have remembered the BARON of MUD, would need far more than truth .
I ask this, of CONSERVATIVES not my fellow travelers.
Just read this thread again, as if you are looking for truth, not putting a road block to it.
SM has here displayed not much resemblance to it.
The tactic, remember it is that,of changing the subject to labors past sins.
Is with intent, to stop that spotlight swinging around in the darkness to fix on NEGATIVE MAN
remember watch the polls this issue is descriptive of conservatives unfitness to rule.
SM thanks for not withdrawing, thanks for changing the subject.
It proves my view mirrors side show alley!

Belly,

Before you get your dander up, the only references to sending refugees to Iran in HANSARD are those of Chris Bowen, not by Morrison as you claimed. Perhaps you should read the actual speech given by Morrison, not the article by the Asylum Seeker Resource centre with its selectively excised bits of his speech.

http://www.scottmorrison.com.au/info/speech.aspx?id=179&page=1

Morrison was not advocating sending people to Iran, rather that if Juliar was to copy the Comprehensive Plan of Action that worked in Indochina, using East Timor was useless, and that if it was to work that the countries of first refuge would need to be the focus point. As the follows excerpts show:

“In framing the regional processing idea the Prime Minister and others have sought to draw parallels with the Indochinese refugee crisis, and in particular the Comprehensive Plan of Action.

The Prime Minister is working from a false premise.

Firstly, camps were established in places of first asylum in the region where asylum claims were assessed to determine eligibility for resettlement, under the auspices of the UNHCR.

The regional crisis that faces us today is centred on Afghanistan and surrounding nations – that is where a regional solution is needed. That is where Australia should be focussing our diplomatic efforts for a genuine solution that draws together and implements the lessons of the response to the Indochinese refugee crisis. “

He reaffirmed the coalition policy: (trimmed)

The first solution the region needs is for Australia to change our domestic policies – and restore the suite of measures, with enhancements, that have proved to be effective in the past.

1. Reinstate temporary protection visas – and deny the people smugglers a product to sell;

2. Re-open the processing center in Nauru;

3. restoring the policy to turn boats back

4. Tighten the appeals system ;

5. End Labor’s no doc entry process for illegal boat arrivals ;

6. Implement a returns policy to ensure those whose asylum claims have failed go back to their home country;

7. Afford priority processing status to offshore special humanitarian visa applicants ,over illegal boat arrivals,

Belly, I do agree with SM's last post. Have a read on Morrison's speech to see what he actually said rather than the spin put on it by Labor (and refugee .

I don't get the emphasis put on either Nauru or Malaysia by the two major parties. Processing on Nauru does have the advantage of it being largely under our control and perhaps the spin off of providing some much needed financial input into their economy without it being straight handout's. The obsession with either solution though does have the stench of political point scoring rather than seeking best outcomes though.

One of the problems with the whole claim of boat people being queue jumpers is the suggestion that there is no queue, eg if you are sitting in a camp in Pakistan, Iran etc there may not be a legal and real means to seek entry to Australia. Not sure what the truth is on that claim. Morrison's proposal if taken at face value (yeah I know he's a politician so that's a stretch) would ensure that there was a queue, queue jumpers would be sent to the back of the line.

Clearly there is a lot that could be done to help those waiting in the camps, those who may not have the funds to get to Australia or do much else to help themselves. Giving them hope, some skill's, better living conditions are all things we could do without needing to run prison camps in Australia or Nauru.

R0bert