Luciferase,

Pacific solution = guns
on shore processing = self mutilation and suicide
Malaysian solution = child battery and rape.

etc Can you think of any other silly irrelevant slogans?

This increase of refugee acceptance is an attempt to make the government look generous instead of being forced by incompetence to raise the numbers to match reality.

"Pacific solution = guns
on shore processing = self mutilation and suicide
Malaysian solution = child battery and rape"

The third statement in this trilogy is hysterical speculation on your part, SM, and certainly does fit the bill as being an utterly stupid slogan.

You should also note that self mutilation and suicide were an issue on Nauru, thus leaving us with either guns (100% effective but completely inhumane) or Malaysia (likely to be effective).

Nauru and onshore detention did not and will not stop boats coming

Forrest, yes you’ve got to wonder. Read between the lines, be suspicious, doubt everything… because things are seldom as they seem at first impressions…. even if it the message appears to be perfectly clear!

Belly,

I think you realise I was a making a point to 579 regarding his concerns about what these people are "doing to our country".

Couldn't find any evidence myself that any other culture is making significant inroads on our present generic "Western" appetite for bland fatty/sugary food and plastic crap.

Luciferase,

I was being sarcastic. All three statements are equally ridiculous.

Considering that in 2001 when the pacific solution was installed the number of boat people dropped quickly from 4000 p.a. to close to zero, where it stayed until KRudd dismantled the policy in 2008, and it quickly rose to 5000+ p.a.

There is no other viable explanation.

More boat arrivals have come in Nov 2011 than from 2002 to 2007.

To claim that the pacific solution which included TPVs won't work again given its past success needs a bit more evidence than a civil servant thinks so.

Labor has lost control of the borders and is now trying to pretend that it would have happened anyway. labor is spin over substance.

Yabby and SPQR,
I have read all these posts with ammusments. You blokes have done very well and the advocates still bring up the same old debunkeed arguments.
Most ammused at Lucifers claim that he does not want to see our navy fire warning shots to stop an illegal vessel again. He carried on as though they sank the boat, instead of boarding it.

Wonder where Lexi got her 60000 refugees arrived by air from. Is that supposed to be an annual figure? I also wonder why she does not use figures from DIAC.

Ludwig, welcome back and Forest I appreciate your input.

I think our current intake of refugees is about right, but I suppose a few more would not hurt. But am addament the illegal arrivals must stop. I think now it will take far tougher action than previously to stop them coming, because they now know we are a pushover.