Dear Banjo,

Re-read the last lot os links that I gave for the 60,000
numbers as quoted from the Herald/Sun and other newspapers.\
I don't make these things up, I actually get the information
from various sources, including Government Departments.
You also can get the same information if you Google it or
access Government Departmental souces. It is freely available.
It gets a bit tiresome to keep repeating the same thing -
"Google the subject..."

Lexi,
Comon My dear, you know the majority of those refered to in those articles are short term overstayers (tourists) who stay a bit longer and then leave on their own volition, after spending more of their own money. The figure is static because they are replaced by others who stay a bit longer as well. I do not accept the citizens of the UK or US apply for asylum. In your first few posts you spoke about 60000 illegal refugees who had came by air on false papers. Untrue. Maybe a deliberate ploy to confuse others?

You will note who gave the info to the press. A lawyer who derives income from pressing asylum claims. These lawyers have a direct interest in presenting their clients in the best light possible.

The DIAC website is easy enough to follow and has all the info most people would want.

Dear Banjo,

The Herald Sun got its information from Government Departments
under the Freedom of Information Act. I did not make the stuff
up. But enough said on this topic. I'll know next time not to
get involved.

cont'd ...

BTW ; short-term overstayers are not included in the
given figures. Read the following link again:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/taxpayers-60,000-illegal-immigrants/story-e6frf716-1226200664868

As the article tells us:

The costs to the Government in more ways than one are
quite substantial. More than half have been here for five
or more years, 20,000 for a decade or more. One in three
who've been here for more than 10 years indicate that there's
something very wrong with the system.

76 illegals caught picking fruit, 100,000 cost. Employers are to blame and they hopefully, are billed for the 100,000 it cost to delete them.
All workers are required to have a tax file number.

SM says, "I was being sarcastic. All three statements are equally ridiculous." Aaah, good that you admit that about the Malaysian Solution, at least. You can stop your hand-wringing now.

He alo asserts "There is no other viable explanation." for the flow of boats stopping following the inception of the Pacific Solution of which the final ad hoc stage, following the failure of the disincentive of processing offshore in Nauru et al, was the Australian Navy turning boats away by armed force. Yep, that worked very well, dropping arrivals to zero.

Didn't follow the civil servant reference, SM. If it was about me you're way off.

Have to admire Lexi's noble persistence in trying punch real published information into the minds of some posters here. None is so blind...etc. It's a tough crowd here, Lexi, good luck

Enough from me for awhile. I'll just settle back and see what Mr Abbott comes up with next to save his bacon. God he's on the nose!