Did I hear right?

I heard today that our Julia is opening the gates, & let the boat people loose on the streets.

Like a vindictive kid, if you don't get what you want throw a tantrum. No Malaysian solution, so cop this you lot, would seem to be the case.

It is in keeping with the breed. When the councils resisted giving Beattie their water, that he wanted for Brisbane, he threw a tantrum, & landed us with a water commission, which is proving very expensive to close down, & a multi billion bill for a desalination plant & a water grid, both of which have proved useless.

Hope the folk of Sydney & Melbourne enjoy the influx, if this is true.

No one can accuse me of liking Julia, but this is the first time that I read something positive about her (of course it may or may not be true).

Why discriminate against humans? Most countries have land borders, so animals can freely cross from one country to the next. In Australia, it's only fish and birds, but still, why should humans have less rights than birds? One may want to block people out of certain cities, but what right has anyone to block people out of a whole continent?

I only hope that Australians get similar rights to bring in their family and friends from overseas to visit them without having to beg Julia as if she was doing us a favour.

I find my self bogged, deep mud stops my progress.
My post is between a conservative and is it green?
If Australia today, knew the costs of refugees , planes boats over stayers, we would be horrified.
If we knew how much we would not except it.
We know,or should,most are weary of them arriving.
Most are weary of the self imposed separatism some bring with them.
And yes hide your heads,but with Onslo in Norway, haveing 28% recent arrivals in their Schools, most understand what our country will look like in 100 years.
Few care to know but Tony Abbott does,cares only about his wish to be Prime Minister,at any cost.
Only his preparedness to betray us all, so he may keep boat people as a weapon, stops us stopping the boats.
A vote, just allowing Coalitions stated policy's off shore processing, would take a toy from Tony.
History, soon to be written, will highlight the fact Tony Abbott in mind not body has been a truly little man ,one with no concern for his party country just a self interested NO to anything.

Yuyutsu,

Birds and animals don't have to pay for infrastructure or for public education and other trappings of the welfare state. They don't have the problems of different languages and incompatible cultures. If they outbreed their resources or damage their environment, nature takes care of it.

Australia is a relatively decent place to live because our ancestors and predecessors put a lot of work and money into it and because we are putting work and money into keeping it that way. We didn't simply luck out. This link gives some idea of the infrastructure costs per person for every new arrival

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/39930.html

Very few would be able to pay up front.

The EU can afford open borders between member states because they are at relatively similar levels of development, so departures and arrivals tend to iron out, but a lot of the pressure for immigration here is coming from countries that are in the Malthusian trap or have very recently left it. In such a country, any improvements to carrying capacity are simply translated into more babies until the customary level of misery is restored. That is what happened with the benefits of the Haber-Bosch process and the Green Revolution, and would happen with the smaller benefit of open borders to Australia. The economic historian Gregory Clark has pointed out in "A Farewell to Alms" that the palace at Versailles and other extravangances of the French aristocracy really cost the peasants nothing, because without them, there would have simply been more hungry, miserable peasants.

I find the idea of open borders just as offensive as you would find the idea of giving random strangers open access to your house, car, and all that is in them.

The part that goes against me is the boat people are que jumping and not waiting their turn. They have to be held long enough to make sure they are not carrying a dose of leprosy or taburculosis.
Who knows what might happen within parliament now.

Belly,
Comon, be fair dinkum! Rudd and his side kick Gillard got us into this mess. They simply never had the guts to say they made a mistake, when it was obvious.

Hey, I don't particularly like Abbott, but you cannot blame him for this. Labor has now formed a coalition with the Greens and independants and have failed to get support from their partners to try and stop the boats.

They have capitulated to the Greens again and again, so next thing we will be flying the illegals in from Indonesia or Malayasia. This will happen after the next boat dissaster.