Betty has not posted in this thread jolanda I however have, my sign in is Belly.
A basic understanding of your views is called for, do you truly believe the NSW ALP is totally corrupt?
And have you so little faith in voters that you think the fact they will in all probability return this government has no impact on conservatism in this state and country?
Yes some idiots can be found in both party's without lifting the carpet.
And yes like it or not the present ALP leader had the poisoned chalice passed to him by the Carr Treasurer.
But given the chance this leader will put his own ministers in place next week.
And assisted by the worst opposition in this states history get a chance to get this state back on track.
The question remains, why are conservatives not electable in Australian states?
And another question must be asked over and again.
Why can some not respect the voters right to vote as they wish?

Yes Belly (sorry about the wrong spelling of your name) I do believe that the ALP is totally corrupt.

The process and procedures used to deal with allegations against them mean that they have no choice but to be corrupt as they are not permitted to ask questions in relation to "particular conduct" and they are required to accept and believe whatever tale/story is presented to them by members of their own without question or challenge.

They are not required to afford the General Public any respect or value them enough to consider that what they say might just actually be the truth.

No good can ever come from that.

You state "At the moment it seems that the more incompetent and corrupt you are the more chance you have of being promoted instead of sacked."
That is precisely why they are picked and elevated because of their criminal attributes and their ability to shed crocadile tears for the very victims they have created. Behind the scenes the media refer to the politicians as jelly babies, or bottles of sauce that can be poured in any direction commanded. Let us not forget, the media barons have had billions of dollars shovelled their way by the politicians of all stripes; trully staggering amounts, at the direct expense of the majority over the last two decades. A sensational political exposure in the media is not done for any principled reason but to whip the politicians into line. Even here, with media exposures such as politicians claiming $330,000 expenses for three months overseas jaunts, this is still minor exposures or small change. What would happen if people got an inkling of the really big odious criminal issues carried out on a virtual daily basis in parliament? Sex scandal exposures are a well used ploy or veil to disguise an underlying political crisis to dissipate heat and divert attention outwards. For instance, the Clinton sex scandal was whipped up by the media barons and a section of big business that was highly disgruntled and 'gung ho' for gutting social welfare programs, democratic rights, and using US military might overseas to loot global resources. Clinton was viewed as too slow in carrying through the 'new world agenda' and a political highjacking took place. How else to explain Bush? Known widely as the idiot in the White House through his daily stumblings, an ignoramus with an arrogant smirk, elevated out of nothing into the most powerful position in the heart of world capitalism. Even his smirk undermines his daily deceits and manipulative attempts.

You state "pressure politics for what is fair."
But that is what workers have been doing for the last hundred years; going on strike to pressure the bosses or politicians. That old reformist perspective has collapsed. After a hundred years,including enormous sacrifices, where has it left workers today? Workers face new industrial laws that are far harsher and more exploitive than anything they have known. As well, global organizations scouring the world for ever cheaper labor and resource materials. Howard too has prepared with 40 changes to the anti terror laws passed in secret behind the backs of workers. These laws will be used to whisk workers away in the dead of night without laying charge and for anyone else who protest. Already these charges have been used this very week against Sydney University and Melbourne University students protesting.

Reformism - reform your ways, is a blind alley today because the bosses and politicians are not granting concessions but taking back all previous hard won conditions. Over the whole century one thing has remained consistent: the working class has been systematically excluded from political power by pressure or protest politics. Who are you protesting too, the case hardened criminals and scoundrels in parliament? Do they understand what they are doing, of course? Will they listen, NO?
The protest leaders act to let off steam, a left safety valve. Many of the protest leaders have their parliamentary career mapped out. Their economic reformist perspective is nationalism and are hostile to the struggle for the international unification of the working class against global capital and the outmoded nation-state system. History has demonstrated that a break from bourgeois politics and the development of socialist consciousness are not spontaneous processes—even during times of great political and social upheaval—but require a conscious struggle by Marxists to construct a revolutionary leadership in the working class.

Jolanda your problems with accountability and the ombudsman should not be confused with the party in government.
I go on record saying this election tomorrow is not yet won, Labor is by far the best of 2 very bad choices but is not yet elected.
A protest vote is just as much a chance as it was for Wayne Goss or Kennett.
Now Accountability, it is in the hands first of public servants and they do not understand the word.
22 years as a government worker in NSW I know what it is like to search for accountability.
Ombudsman is a separate from government position and sometimes a chance exists they may ignore the lies from public servants about your case, if it is true.
May I suggest a case needing airing can sometimes get sunlight with oppositions? or the press?
Yes minister, any minister and form of government is not a TV story it is based on real life.
The ALP is not corrupt, once and if, back in office some foolish heads will roll and a balance return to Labor government in NSW.

Gday johncee 1945 that was the year of my birth, so I have some time in the university of life.
I can not support a view that claims if you do not think like me you are corrupt.
Most gee, nearly all workers/ people in the western world support capitalism.
So very few would leave the west to live in north Korea or even Cuba,as a trade union official I am sure my members think as I do.
In winning elections, in having a say in social outcomes , voter numbers are the only currency that matters.
A new Capitalism is a chance, a caring sharing hand up not a hand out capitalism.
How? get involved in a party that can be elected to govern and be heard.
It is of little worth to forever support ideas that are unsaleable in the market day we call elections.
Bush Howard and those who support them love devisions in our side of politics.