Yes Rehctub , but "it is the Big Food Chains" that are presenting these cheap imported goods (not actually cheap) but at a price determined by the duopoly, in a cartel pricing structure, sold to the consumer because the margin is higher. Not because there is any actual benefit in not producing your own(local) food and selling it at the retail counter for the consumer. The buying public has to feed itself, and therefore selects from the available promoted choices and doesn't really have much actual choice in the matter in reality.

As always, you identify the villains incorrectly.

It is the Corporate view of the future or more accurately it's CEO in the Qantas matter, that proposes that the jobs go offshore.

In the industrial imbalance created by the Howard years, industrial harmony can never exist now, in an environment that allows Companies to lock their employees out of a business. This has not been successfully repaired by either Rudd or Gillard yet.

In this model all a company has to do, is ultimately "lock out it's employees out of a business", creating total disruption to the service for the customers, and then blame the employees.

Qantas have never negotiated in good faith with their employees and planned to lock them out from the beginning, encouraged to do so by the legislation as it stands.

It is the preference of Big business, that imported goods be sold, and jobs be lost to other places in Australia. Only good Gov't representative of it's people will fix that Rehctub.

I am not ready for another free for all, every man for himself, kind of view of Australia that we receive from Conservative Govts in this country, at this time. I would not wish to feel stifled, and once again be lamenting opportunities lost, as I felt during the Howard years.

Going back now, with Tony's "Son of Howard" Govt model is giving me nightmares.

I spoke to a police officer taday, a long serving one at that.

He said he earned $75K per year, which took into account his overtime.

Remember, they are in a very high risk job, and to the, the most feared risk today is catching something from an undesirerable, which they have plenty to do with.

Now a concreter gets paid about $400 per day, thats $100K, a baggage handler for Qantas, up to $85K and a floor worker at r entertainment centre is on base rate of $40K. They also receive double time Sunday's an after midnight.

So, it is very obvious the police are underpaid, so how do we addess this, remain comtetetve in the global market and protect Australian jobs.

Any suggestions?

Increase the pay of Police Officers ?. Sounds like it's a given Rehctub.

*As always, you identify the villains incorrectly.*

Not so Thinker 2. You simply don't understand how supermarkets do
business. The most expensive store space is occupied by those
products which consumers walk past and don't buy, for whatever
reason. Supermarkets stock what moves. It is consumers who want
ever cheaper prices and who will go down the road to buy 10c cheaper.

So supermarkets give you choices. Australian products or cheaper
imports. Or sometimes more expensive imports, if they are better
quality. Consumers decide what is on those shelves, by voting with
their wallets. If a local product is simply not selling, as consumers flock
for the cheapest, then of course it won't be stocked,
supermarket shelf space is too valuable.

Qantas is no different. Given that 80% of Australians choose cheaper
Asian carriers when flying overseas and Qantas are losing 200 million
$ a year on international, they have to change their business model.

No, Qantas are not just there to create jobs and for your convenience.
If you rented your house out, you would quite correctly think it
quite reasonable that the tenant paid some rent. If it applies to
your house, then it applies to other forms of capital as well.

If the tenants trashed your house you might get a bit upset. Well
that is what has happened to Qantas shareholder capital. No wonder
they are upset. As the business community is pointing out, right
now the unions are doing their best to destroy jobs at Qantas, rather
then preserve them. Sadly few union officials understand the
fundamentals of business. Waving placards is not a qualification.
Perhaps we need a few more educated union leaders for a change

Well we are at it again thread was about what?
So may as well step around the Quantas planes over paid women poor under paid cops.
And launch a new branch on our tree.
Bob Brown? seen his anti America bit?
Strange bloke.
But not as strange as those who see any good in him.

How often have you heard the saying, it's not worth me doing that overtime as I just get taxed more and it ends up being not worth it.
well, this is what Qantas is going through right now, they are investing all this money and effort in to the international arena and itnis not worth it.

So why can't they take their business elsewhere if it better suits them?

It's not as if they are letting the majority down, because the majority fly on cheaper carriers.

Back to topic.
It is more an more like a race to the bottom every day.

Remember, rud flogged Howard, gillard punted rud, yet they are coming a distant second to Abbott, who is not a patch on Howard.

Kinda makes you feel all warn and fuzzy, don't it!