OUG. Study the Khazars.Apparently they are not Semites but assumed the Jewish faith as a matter of convience which the likes of the Rothschilds are ancestors.

You're right, Arjay.

>>More adhominem from Pericles.Is that the best you can muster?<<

I should try harder.

But the whole direction of this thread is quite confusing. As far as I can tell from the reports, the Vatican has no interest whatsoever in taking part in "initiating a new Global Bank and central regulating authority". They simply wish that someone else would do it.

Did you actually read the document itself or did you - as is your normal practice - merely suck up the equally uninformed speculations from your favourite conspiracy web site?

No need to answer that, I'm pretty sure I can guess.

But here, take a look through my copy.

http://democraciaparticipativa.net/documentos-data-a-referenda/documents-in-english/documents-on-economy/3993-towards-reforming-the-international-financial-and-monetary-systems-in-the-context-of-global-public-authority.html

And work out for yourself whether your accusation that they are encouraging the establishment of "An un-electable Gobal Banking authority" is based on anything it contains.

Sheesh. You'd find "global conspiracy" in two flies climbing a wall.

Pericles,face the reality.The global private banksters create from nothing, all the new money for growth + inflation in their computers as debt with the click of a computer mouse.This makes them supreme rulers since they loan this money to our Govts + businesses + individuals.

Now with the collapse,they have ripped off even more money from you and every other worker.You cannot be that stupid!

tried to post this to belly arab spring topic
and got 'prevented'..from posting
so place it here before trying again

hi mr bell..i tried to post this comment here
http://au.news.yahoo.com/local/qld/a/-/local/11304702/qld-protesters-dwindle-after-evictions/

but so far nothing...[so as it relates to pro-testing..!]
thus i pro=tested

LIKE ARABS CAN DO..but i in a police state cant..!

i will add it to your spring time topic

im the old guy at the end of the vidio
http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=681284&vId=2823165&cId=Top%20Stories

the vidio at 7 shows more detail
but ..lol..refuses to 'play]

so as i wrote at the first link
[and what hasnt posted]..lol

""i came to listen and watch..
[by the way im a self funded retired person]
not some dole bludger..and am concerned with much i hear on the news

i heard barnbaby joyce shutdown
when he dared to talk of qld debt..
[then at 65 billion...that 'rolls over into 75 billion in 2012 so i hear]..

im also concerned with the greek debt..who have the same polulation base as qld..and the fact that out state debt is near theirs..[the only difference being were overtaxed here..and get cheap intrest..while greece is paying 26% each year

so clearly i needed facts
so sat in the HOT kinggeorge square..watching

when *they were moved on..[so much for 'occupy'..lol
i went to where they were..[in the shade]

and was orderd to 'move on..[lol]..from a public space?

anyhow i told them to go away
they said repeatedly im under arrest..and picked me up
then 6 meters later..dropped me..as i passed out from heat egsaustion

[the 'new kinggeorge squre is darn hot mate
designed to stop protest?]

i note from the footage..i was immediatly handcuffed
and a nice police man waterboarded me..lol

[after all this is queensland ruled
by those serving the state,..not the queen]
even though police are sworn to the queen[like me]

and no one is NOT allowed to watch others complain..pro-test..
[ie the 1%..who dare to briefly complain]

anyhow..the 7 vision speaks for itself
and maybe the 9

i was drenched with water
and eventually left alone in the shade..

to wonder what the heck had happend
to the right to simply sit and watch the world go by

peace man
it simply means watching the watchers
http://au.news.yahoo.com/local/qld/a/-/local/11304702/qld-protesters-dwindle-after-evictions/
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=9+news+brisbane+occupy&hl=en&sa=G&gbv=2&prmd=ivnsu&source=univ&tbm=nws&tbo=u&ei=lfWyTq3zOMWViAfomO2fAg&ved=0CBoQqAI
http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx%3Fid%3D8369211&sa=U&ei=lfWyTq3zOMWViAfomO2fAg&ved=0CB8QFjAC&sig2=C00lF0yz9Eu_kSVbVv5FAw&usg=AFQjCNGLl0q6Hk_q_0803UNPelCbBinyyw
http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8368609/police-evict-occupy-brisbane-protesters&sa=U&ei=lfWyTq3zOMWViAfomO2fAg&ved=0CCEQFjAD&sig2=upCIKcZJTU9SHEC5EvOKVw&usg=AFQjCNFrmZUivb0tvX5RcwfioyUngHQB1A
http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx%3Fid%3D8368609&sa=U&ei=lfWyTq3zOMWViAfomO2fAg&ved=0CCMQFjAE&sig2=07l14zAGRQ7dSeS3KkA2lQ&usg=AFQjCNFPnHfGBM7HnDOITia4wBfUKc194A

anyhow have a laugh
im bruised..but not batterd about too much

was it worth it..lol
mate im not shot dead
so its all good..

anyhow mate all the be4st
from johannine

Not exactly, Arjay.

>>This makes them supreme rulers since they loan this money to our Govts + businesses + individuals.<<

What it does, is make the Banks highly vulnerable to the stupidity of governments (and individuals, of course) who over-borrow like crazy in the boom times, then whinge like stuck pigs when the reality of their position comes back to bite them.

All those banks who lent to the Greek government have had to accept only half their money back. You can say that the Banks were wrong to lend them the money in the first place, but you can hardly suggest that they are the "supreme rulers" in the equation.

The only reason that governments have taken so much trouble to keep the banks afloat - and received the flak for it - is that they have no alternative. Allowing the entire banking system to collapse would bring down governments too. Not just in the political sense, where one party takes over from another. But in the sense that companies would be unable to operate, millions of people would not be paid their wages, and the country would suffer very badly, for a long time.

So they have to put a peg over their nose, and try to solve the problem without ruining the economy entirely - in full knowledge, of course, that they caused the bulk of the problems in the first place.

>>Now with the collapse,they have ripped off even more money from you and every other worker.You cannot be that stupid!<<

Ok, so I'm stupid. Tell me how "they" have ripped off even more money from us? Be a bit more specific, this time. Simply chuntering on about global private banksters isn't particularly informative.