Anthony I do not know about you but I carry the scares of many conflicts on this subject.
At times I have shaken my head at the acts of some on my side.
Those e mails, while stolen are still the product of fools.
How ever if you like a grin think on this.
IF your threads subject.
Had never changed his mind.
Those tossing the mud at you/him/me.
Would be?
Quoting him to us!

Good to see the early snow in the US. It makes you wonder how much egg on the face the alarmist need in order to get them to crawl back in their holes. Its time they employed a few new High Priests to explain why all previous predictions have been so wrong.

Anthonyve no one can start telling others about global warming, or upholding the morality of "science" as it is practiced by activists, without checking the warts in their camp.

Try looking at some of the climate gate details exposed, but be prepared to change your mind about the whole thing. The exposed information shows what a bunch of lying, cheating, shysters the leaders of the con really are.

Not only that, it shows they are proud of the way they have concocted the "science" to suit the scam.

The "hide the decline" glorifies a cheat in switching from tree ring data, [it self a cherry picked con] to actual thermometer data, when the tree ring data showed a drop in temperature, when the theory required an increase, but hiding the change in data source.

The hockey stick, you so foolishly brought up, was another con to try to get rid of the medieval warm period, & the little ice age, to make the 70/98 warming look much more dramatic than it was.

Their smug, self satisfied arrogance, thinking they were too smart to be caught is evidence of how dumb they are. Fooling academics, & politicians is child's play of course, but real people aren't that easy.

Unfortunately for our morally challenged so called scientists, without an "Exterminator" type capacity, to go back & change the massive evidence of these periods, it doesn't work. These lies may fool dumb politicians, & suit a conniving UN, but can't fool any thinking person. If you are fair dinkum, try turning on your BS detector & doing a little Google. Look at the evidence, then come & join the honest people.

Hi Hasbeen,
Well, that was quite a rant. I think you might need a bex and a good lie down after that.
Anyhoo, I'll address just one point, the hockey stick.
Just to correct you, I didn't actually raise it in this thread. It was one of the items that dr Muller and his team verified in the research i reported at the start of the thread. After analysing 1.6 billion weather observations, he and his team have concluded that climate scientists have been right all along, including the hockey stick effect.
Dr Muller is professor of physics at UC Berkeley. His associate, Dr Pearlmutter is a Nobel prize winner.
So please don't shoot the messenger because the latest data ravages your pet theory.
But let me see if I understand your position correctly.
CSIRO, more than 90% of the world's climate scientists, the academies of science in all the developed nations, NASA, are all a bunch of charlatons and con artists.
But, good old Hasbeen has got them all sussed.
I'm sure you can see where my problem lies.
As Carl Sagan said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." yours is undoubtely an extraordinary claim, yet you offer no proof at all.
Occam's Razor would definitely apply, donchathink?
Cheers,
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au
I'm sure you can see where my problem lies.

Hasbeen / rehctub

Please stop reiterating the lie that the earth has been cooling since 1998.

This is simply not true. All records show the earth is still warming. 1998 was a particularly hot year so is convenient for denialists to compare the years since.

9 of the 10 hottest years on record occurred in the last decade.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-stopped-in-1998-intermediate.htm

If you have evidence to the contrary, please provide it.

Jim, please cut the appeal to authority. All Gore & a heap of as near as dammit criminals in East Anglia got a Nobel prise, so forget that rubbish. I think yours is the extraordinary claim, & the desperate one.

Trashy, if you believe that you are more simple than I've guessed.

How much ice has Antarctica gained in the last 10 years?