A good point Trashy.

IVF for homosexuals is a sore point with many. It should not be made available to any who are capable of conceiving naturally. This is just a waste of resources, which could be better used elsewhere.

Most life choices have consequences, why should not the same apply to the choices of homosexuals?

That couple deserve to be condemned for their actions - not for who they are.

There is currently a hetero couple in the news facing charges of murdering their daughter and another straight couple recently sentenced in the US for a similar crime.

Has anybody bothered raising their sexuality as a connection for their crimes or claiming that it was inevitable?

When it comes down to it, Jesus had two fathers.

rache:>>When it comes down to it, Jesus had two fathers<<

rache top line, many thanks.

rash quote...""When it comes down to it,
Jesus had two fathers.""

rache we all do
the father god..who gives all life

and the means father..who choses who gets the living sperm
as well as the mot-her...with the living egg..who picks which of the fathers potential fathers gets his shot..at becomming a father.

god is the father of all life
god is everyones 'father'..[just as god is everyones mother]

yes you will say two fathers
but of truth only one..which we all share

anyhow
as...['ye shall call him emmanuel''..]..;jesus?
was raised by joseph..[as his parent
husband of his 'wife']

the joke of having two fathers
hardly makes any man unique
we are all children
of the one father

thus jesus said ''se that ye see me do....
ye shall do greater''..]..
greater than god?..
[of course not]

[thats usually the next..wrong inferance]
[that the son..is his own father]..how insane is that?

anyhow so much for inevitable
the only true inevatibility..is life comes from life
[thus invalidating evolutions hypothesis..of life from nothing
or by accident..rather than design..

[the next illogical progression..
of the preceeding others il-logicalities

[the other two are the lie of a 'day of judgment'
and some reserction 'day'..life is energy..[energy cant be created,nor destroyed]..a LIVING sperm..comes into a Living egg]

and science claiming to 'make life'
yet using gods egg..well thats a lie too

Runner, we have had this silly discussion before, many times... sigh.
Because of the awful nastiness of many so-called Christians and others, homosexual people have often had to live a life of lies, and try to live as heterosexual.
This can only last so long.

Imagine any of us heterosexuals being 'made' to act as homosexuals for any length of time, because all the gay people thought heterosexuals were 'abominations'?

Only really unfeeling, nasty people would demand that we all had sex/loved only members of the opposite sex.
It is just too awful really.

Oneundergod, I was just wondering which God 'fathered' all the children of atheists and believers of non-christian gods?
Who 'fathered' all the kiddies before Jesus was supposedly born?

suzzz..its hard to reply
a wrong question with a correct reply

""Who 'fathered' all the kiddies
before Jesus was supposedly born?""

the same [the one good god:..grace/mercy/love/logic/life]
who created every living thing..
who sustains
all living beings..their very lives...

the same hioly living spirit..that has done this
since before christ..as well as after christ...

as long as a life lives..
its the god of creation..[all creation]..that sustains its living..

we get confused by assuming this good god..needs a name
that parroting some name...is like a child pestering a parent
that repeating it gets them some advantage..makes them special

allows ONLy them to be 'his people'
or only them to get into heaven

again we approach madness..in saying we alone are his
all the rest [majority]..of you..are not

so tell me ohhh chosen ones
if god gave you life
who gave the rest of us life
[as there is more of us..and less of you
clearly some elitist=isms...have enterd into your ego

think the god of life supports to live
the least equally the most...sustains to live
equally the good and the vile...

[to sepperate the living from the dead..
[words from works]..those who claim he rejects anyone
is insane..there is god[good]...who gifts us a gift..then the rest of us[even his many sons]..who accept the gift..and live..[or reject the gift and yet live on in the hereafter

in short its a gift none can refuse
many may be called but were all...been chosen
to get it..

wether we 'get it' or not