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Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 16 October 2011 4:14:19 PM
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Lexi:"Why are you making this personal?"
Why are you unable to engage on any level other than the personal? Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 17 October 2011 3:53:57 AM
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However despite the survey results Anti, marriage is still highly popular and those who choose not to get married are still making decisions to have children.
There are very few men who are out there thinking about the CSA in their mating activities, especially since shared parenting became the norm. Posted by pelican, Monday, 17 October 2011 8:05:44 AM
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Pelican:"There are very few men who are out there thinking about the CSA in their mating activities"
And your evidence is? I think this might aid your understanding http://www.aifs.gov.au/institute/pubs/rp41/rp41.html#fertility "The contemporary decline in the fertility rate overall stems from the fact that an increasing proportion of women either remain permanently childless or are having only one or two children. Between 1981 and 2006, the proportion of women aged 40-44 years who had two children increased from 29 to 38 per cent, while the proportion that had four or more children fell from 28 to 11 per cent. The proportion of women in this age range who had three children also declined (from 27 to 22 per cent), while the proportion having only one child fluctuated (between 8 and 13 per cent). There was also an increase in the proportion of women who remained childless (from 9 to 16 per cent)." and "Women who give birth over the age of 30 are increasingly likely to be first-time mothers - 41 per cent of all first births in 2003 were to women in this age range, compared with 28 per cent in 1993 [....] As a result, for many women the timeframe in which they can achieve their preferred number of children is progressively shortened." and "There is considerable evidence to suggest that families are the most significant support network for the elderly. The increasing rate of childlessness, coupled with family breakdowns and children pursuing jobs interstate or overseas, will mean that many elderly parents will be either "functionally" or "actually" childless". The CSA took nearly $3 billion from the separated fathers of Australia last year and gave it to their former partners. Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 17 October 2011 8:55:34 AM
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Antiseptic,
I now get it. It's all my fault. No surprises there. Posted by Lexi, Monday, 17 October 2011 9:12:23 AM
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Lexi, the original post said:"Women with partners also reported that a main barrier was their partner's reluctance to have a child, or another child. Some said that disagreement over childbearing threatened their relationships, and that they avoided talking about wanting children in case their partners left."
I have mentioned the issue of fertility in marriage more than once in the thread. Therefore, it seemed reasonable to assume that you were referring to married men in your condom comment, since you didn't qualify it. Of course, if you were just being facetious, that's another story. So let's depersonalise it. Do you expect married men to routinely be responsible for contraception? Do you expect men to be generally responsible for it? Would your responses be any different if there were no possibility of either child support payments being transferred from one parent to the other or preferential treatment for women under the Family Law Act? Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 17 October 2011 9:49:48 AM
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Why are you making this personal?
Are you just simply stirring?
I'm genuinely interested.