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Julia Gillard Why?

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http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3206984.html
An in depth look at the present and the past.
I have always watched the Author, even at times traveled the same paths.
Those who are, as I am, concerned about the reason Julia is surviving,against all odds, could do worse than read.
Ultimately this question has to be addressed.
Is the Australian Labor Party a party of its supporters or those elected to Parliament and other power groups.
EG Unions?
Is the voice of the rank and file only to be heard if power brokers agree with them?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 4:14:32 AM
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Interesting article, but never mentioning the group that she founded that has over 30% of all ALP MPs as members and is actively and overtly working to increase that to a majority. All from outside the Party.

Perhaps Mungo is too wedded to the old factional setup to see it?
Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 4:24:53 AM
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If the assumption is made that Juliar's only uncompromising priority is to stay in office, and that the fortunes of the country, and even the labor party come a distant second, it is easy to explain:

1 The carbon tax lie,
2 The pokies tax,
3 The record billions spent on the detention policy,
4 The East Timor lie,
Etc, etc, etc,
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 8:49:56 AM
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Carbon Tax lie?

Nah. Things changed with a
minority government. But that's the problem
with climate change politics in 2011.
In large part because of politicians like
Tony Abbott - the issue has become so
thoroughly politicised that many conservatives really
don't believe Australia's top scientists. They really
do see a sincere attempt by the government to embark
on a moderate reduction in Australia's greenhouse gases
emissons as a kind of conspiracy to withdraw liberties
and increase taxation. Mr Abbott is one of the key
stokers of this issue, he and his cheerleaders in the
media and elsewhere would have us believe this nonsense.

The pokies tax? Please... this is not a tax. It's simply
an attempt to introduce a system of gambling control
which limits the amount gambled by problem gamblers in
a set period of time. The concern by the clubs is that
the system that will control the gambling limits will be
costly for the clubs to introduce. It will not prevent
gambling on pokies for the average gambler but will simply
limit the amount a problem gambler can lose in a day.
However this does not as I understand affect all other
forms of gambling other than pokies.

Billions spent on detention centres?
Yes - the Pacific Solution did cost the taxpayers
a fortune and did not stop the boats.
As we all know.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 10:35:39 AM
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Surprise, Surprise!
I have never known Mungo to write anything that reflects poorly on Labor, so things must be bad. But keep her there, she is our best chance to get rid of an incompedent lot.

She is a liar, who will say anything to get power. she lied about wanting Rudds job and then about the carbon tax, she claimed to be against a 'Big Australia' but we still have high immigration, promised to 'stop the boats' but has failed totally.

Her Ministry are incompedent and have botched most everything. Now there are botches with the NBN, I reckon many more to come.

Then there is her promise to Wilkie about the pokies. Interesting to see how that plays out. She claims she will honour that promise. We will see! If she does it will cost her far, far more votes than she gains. The cost to change the machines apparently is high and no garantee it will work as intended either. The addicted gamblers will find a way around it. Simply go to another pub/club and continue.
So could be another imposed massive cost that fails,in outcome.

No, keep her there, she is doing great!
Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 10:58:21 AM
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Juliar never said that she had no intention of implementing a carbon tax, or that she did not have the policy to do so, She promised that there would be no carbon tax under the government she lead.

The hung parliament is an excuse for breaking the promise, but the promise was broken.

Even before the election, the carbon tax was unpopular, and to get into power, she solemnly promised no carbon tax. She had the choice to keep a promise or power.

The 30 pieces of silver is the carbon tax.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 11:17:24 AM
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